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Hi you all,
So, you might notice that we do not really have an up to date "Top 5". With combat balance looming over us, I felt that it wasn't going to be that productive to get a current top 5 (as everything could well be changing anyway).

However as time drags on and the balance gets pushed back I've begun to reconsider that choice. I can't help but think that it would be good just to get a current top 5 to head into the combat rebalance with. That way when asked, "is this a top issue?", I can say, "Yup, it's #3." I suspect that a lot of issues haven't changed although we'll see some new contenders sneaking onto the list (like bleeds).

So start things off I just want to brainstorm concerns. I'm going to write up some of the things I've noticed players are really concerned with and I ask for comments on these and additions. Once we have that I can create a big list of issues and we can vote as to which of those seem most important.

Sound good?

To help me do this please try to format your replies as succinctly as possible. List your suggestions for changes or additions to the list FIRST and then provide any discussion you want.

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Here's my list so far:

• Bleeds are no longer effective enough.
  
• There is not enough variation in our specials. We need more specials that do more things. (Note: dev answer to the old Top 5 indicates that this will be helped in the combat rebalance)
  
• HAM costs are too high. (although we already know that the combat rebalance will revamp HAM usage)
  
• For "heavy" combatants we have far too much difficulty penetrating armor.
  
• Difficulties obtaining Scythe schematics.
  
• Lack of specific role/utility in combat.
  
• Damage mitigation penalizes Swordsmen greatly.

Another one:

• Lacking damage types (only kinetic and blast)

Message Edited by StGabriel on 03-29-2004 05:49 PM

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StGabriel wrote:
Another one:

• Lacking damage types (only kinetic and stun)

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<scratches head> Blast?

Oops, yep. I had my brain on the "stun" conversation earlier.

StGabe.

Slight typo I'd assume

Lack of weapons in general is one of my issues. They scythe looks cool, but its not a great alternative to the Powerhammer. I'd like something that looks cool and strikes fear into our enemies.

Lacking damage types is a problem for ALL brawler types not just swordsman. I'd like to see each brawler type have one more damage type added.

1. weakness in bleeds


2. variation in our attacks/utility in combat (i see this as one issue as utility can be made up for in attacks and skills)


3. our being "heavy" combatants, and the problem with piercing armor (namely heavy ap as a possiblility, just to be blunt )


4. our hindrance by the damage mitigation


5. and weapons, with various damage types.

so your list covers all the pressing issues, and such that i have noticed, and seen mentioned.

i agree with all but the damage types... realistically the only reason we would need a different dmg type would be pvp, and that is not a good enough reason to make us any more Uber in pve than we already are, just my 2cents.

ok, I'm kind of new to swordsman, How does damage mitigation hurt us more than any other class?

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O-dog wrote:
ok, I'm kind of new to swordsman, How does damage mitigation hurt us more than any other class?

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mitigation hurts weapons with high ranges of dmg like say the powerhammer 100ish to 500ish.

it limits the amount of dmg these weapons do per strike.

the scythe is a big help and one of its best points since it has a tight ranged of dmg

Sounds good so far.

We need more acuracy too....

and MORE WEAPONS MORE WEAPONS MORE WEAPONS MORE WEAPONS....

oh yeah one more thing:

COUNTER ATTACK should toss an attack back ....
least thats what the discription says it does