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Thread: Elder Hunting Techniques...

Jerele
Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:59 pm
#1

List your ways of killing them, what you use, food wise, weapon wise, tactics, etc.




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Marssk
Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:00 pm
#2

first i drop off any unnecessary expensive items, such as my swoop(what are cu pas good for?)then i visit the cloner...



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coolpix
Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:18 pm
#3

Nice Armor, mind buff andgood food. Then hope she does not pull out a stun baton


P.s Hammers seem to be hitting hard too



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MeleeExpert
Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:23 pm
#4



try to get it alone, sometimes its a b*tch to get it away from the other ns but once you do its easy to solo them (if you have the right equipment i.e. capped speed 700+max hammer, etc.) always keep it intimidated and whenever it sticks a bleed to you divert all your attention to first aid that bleed, THIS Is A MUST! elders deal the most damage with their bleeds, sometimes with a 700tick, and if the bleed hits your mind too then youre really screwed. sometimes you will need to do first aid 4 or 5 times to fully get it off of you. using warcry helps when trying to reintimidate them, changing weapons, and healing yourself. i highly suggest master brawler with intimidate2 because it last for a full 2minutes rather than 30seconds. you'd be suprised how annoying intimdateing them over and over can be. also, i use an aukuan shirt that give +10 bleeding defense, blood chowder, a food that also give bleed defense, and even pants that add to bleed def. i'm lucky cuz my 2handed speed +13 comes from my belt i also sugest partially fencer for defense against dizzy/kd, because that can be nasty. IF you do get knocked down while dizzy and you can't get up, keep spamming /stand and /healdamage. put them on your toolbar and press stand and then heal quickly after and sometimes you can sneak in a heal. 33fill canape and nice 45min+brandyis also nice. you can get 2100+ to your secondaries, the bad thing is that it usually only lasts around 9mins or more. also, get both musician buffs, and dancer buffs. they HELP ALOT. remember to put a /follow on the elder too, when you have the elder's mind down to its last 10k it'll start running like a little wh*ore, and lag can make her warp almost 100m ahead of you. dont forget to use a COB macro either. professionwise, you NEED to be a swordsman to solo one of these, rifleman can help alot as well though with a t21, but they can't tank, so that's why you need a swordsman facing her and then riflemen spamming headshot3 and helping the swordsman with his/her bleeds. this is all i can think of now, i'll post again if i remember anything else.



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JediForceSeeker
Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:23 pm
#5






MeleeExpert wrote:



try to get it alone, sometimes its a b*tch to get it away from the other ns but once you do its easy to solo them (if you have the right equipment i.e. capped speed 700+max hammer, etc.) always keep it intimidated and whenever it sticks a bleed to you divert all your attention to first aid that bleed, THIS Is A MUST! elders deal the most damage with their bleeds, sometimes with a 700tick, and if the bleed hits your mind too then youre really screwed. sometimes you will need to do first aid 4 or 5 times to fully get it off of you. using warcry helps when trying to reintimidate them, changing weapons, and healing yourself. i highly suggest master brawler with intimidate2 because it last for a full 2minutes rather than 30seconds. you'd be suprised how annoying intimdateing them over and over can be. also, i use an aukuan shirt that give +10 bleeding defense, blood chowder, a food that also give bleed defense, and even pants that add to bleed def. i'm lucky cuz my 2handed speed +13 comes from my belt i also sugest partially fencer for defense against dizzy/kd, because that can be nasty. IF you do get knocked down while dizzy and you can't get up, keep spamming /stand and /healdamage. put them on your toolbar and press stand and then heal quickly after and sometimes you can sneak in a heal. 33fill canape and nice 45min+brandyis also nice. you can get 2100+ to your secondaries, the bad thing is that it usually only lasts around 9mins or more. also, get both musician buffs, and dancer buffs. they HELP ALOT. remember to put a /follow on the elder too, when you have the elder's mind down to its last 10k it'll start running like a little wh*ore, and lag can make her warp almost 100m ahead of you. dont forget to use a COB macro either. professionwise, you NEED to be a swordsman to solo one of these, rifleman can help alot as well though with a t21, but they can't tank, so that's why you need a swordsman facing her and then riflemen spamming headshot3 and helping the swordsman with his/her bleeds. this is all i can think of now, i'll post again if i remember anything else.







Good plan,


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coolpix
Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:40 am
#6

Rifleman seem to be my pain at the mo with kill stealing if thats what it's called now they can solo an elder too

But melee has it about right, sometimes you can work on the spawn around the elder first. Drawing them away to kill then start on the elder, but if you do this make sure you still more away from the spawn area as it can be a pain when the others re-spawn mid battle.

I also find that all 3 mind stats need to be over 1k when fighting(well I do), plus when she runs watch she does not drag you back to the others



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Benpimpin
Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:17 am
#7






coolpix wrote:

Rifleman seem to be my pain at the mo with kill stealing if thats what it's called now they can solo an elder too

But melee has it about right, sometimes you can work on the spawn around the elder first. Drawing them away to kill then start on the elder, but if you do this make sure you still more away from the spawn area as it can be a pain when the others re-spawn mid battle.

I also find that all 3 mind stats need to be over 1k when fighting(well I do), plus when she runs watch she does not drag you back to the others






For kill stealing Jedi and Rifleman just kindly drag it on top of them spamming peace and watch them die, then /lol there corpse and continue on, oh make sure to let it become unintimidated too then it really hurts them prone rifleman.




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Maniac69
Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:52 am
#8

>> plus when she runs watch she does not drag you back to the others.

I have done a few elders now and then and I noticed that taunt helps to keep the elder from running too much.. when you see her start running, hit a quick taunt macro that will clear you que and taunt her. NS will reaquire you real fast.



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The_Strider_Family
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:16 am
#9



Here are my little tips/tricks (although I had one warp, levitate and then disappear on me last night after her mind was 25K):


  • I always start against one with a fresh set of armor (or at least pieces above 30K)

  • Mind Buffed (Primary and Secondaries)

  • Doctor Buffed

  • Two Vasarian Brandies (and keep taking more as soon as my filling will alllow me)

  • Ahrisa and Vagnerian Canape are in my inventory to take whenever my mind starts getting low. I don't start with them as I like to save them for when I need it.

  • My ultimate last resort (I am a Zabrak) is equilibrium. This only comes into play if my mind is getting killed. I toss a big Stim E so my other bars are full and then hit my equilibrium hot-key to boost my mind back up to the top (or near it).

  • Start my COB macro (runs Center of Being every 32-33 seconds)

  • Start my 'Scare' macro (does intimidate and warcry every 15-20 seconds)

Equipment I use:



  • Power Hammer with 700+ Max Damage

  • High Base Armor with 80% resists to a couple things

  • BE Vasarian Brandy *Hot-keyed

  • BE Ahrisa

  • BE Vagnerian Canape

  • State Packs for every state (2 of Blind, 2 of Dizzy, 1 of the other two)

  • Stim Ds (use these mostly) *Hot-keyed

  • Stim Es (for when I am really getting hammered) *Hot-keyed

  • First Aid Macro (clears my combat queue and then applies first-aid) *Hot-keyed

  • Heal State Macro (clears my combat queue and applies heal states - dizzy, blind, stun, intimidated) *Hot-keyed

I think that about covers it for me. I always /examine the Elder and keep that window open til she engages and pulls a weapon so I can get a good look at what she has. If it's anything with some AR greater than0 I usually high-tail it out of there to fight another day. If it's AR0 (sword, staff, etc....) then the battle begins.I basically start of with a Mind Bleed and then go to Mind Hit 3 the rest of the time. I also use /taunt if she starts to run when her mind gets low but that doesn't always do the trick as well as I would hope.

Message Edited by The_Strider_Family on 11-19-2004 07:18 AM



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apaik
Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:29 pm
#10

you could always bid low on a +7 2 hand speed shirt,see that someone 3 posts later bought it out go back,edit your post saying buyout and steel the shirt from a honest bidder.who here can say they did that on the kettemoor trade forums,only one person i know of jerele the author of this post.i hope you die to all ns you fight looser.

apaik
plonger
Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:55 pm
#11

Well, I have a template that while it seems not too good actually works quite well.


Master smuggler because I like the profession

Master swordsman for the damage

rest dumped in TK for healing wounds/poisons ect.


I use my pistol bleed shot to pull the elder somewhere safe, then beat on her with my hammer making sure she is intimidated all the time. If she gets the edge on me, I FD and let her go back to her group, get up and rinse and repeat.
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