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Thread: Duels with other Elite Brawler Professions...

ZeathUnnh
Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:17 am
#1

I'm a master swordsman and over the last few days, I've been having duels with Teras Kasi Masters and Master Pikemen. Although these were all fun, I was pretty much massacred


I had a number of duels with a master pikeman. First, let me say I was using sliced weapons, he was using an unsliced weapon, so I had an advantage. All I ended up doing was switching to my 2h curved sword, using area attack 3 on him, then switching to my power hammer and spamming headhit3. He sweeped me after a few seconds, and in a series of moves killed my action pool while I was on the ground. I had done a fair bit of damage to him, and it was close, but simply put - Knockdown beat me.


We then had a duel with no specials. He used his vibro lance again, I used my 2h curved sword. This was horrible, I think I took out 20% of his health, and I was incapped. We tried this again with my power hammer, and it was a reversal, he was incapped very fast.


Pikeman definitely has its weaknesses, butthey seem to have an edge on us - knockdown. Unless we happen to dizzy them with area attack, they'll only be delayed half a second, and thats not enough.


Finally another swordsman (not a master) who was watching the duels asked for a 2v1 (vs. the pikeman). We done this, using specials, and I went only for the mind pool, using mind bleed 2 and headhit3 ... I was quickly incapped, and the other swordsman just survived, when my mind bleed took affect and incapped the pikeman.



I fought a Teras Kasi Master last night, and I have on several occasians... every time its the same. They're so much faster than we are, we can't do much to them at all. I would be knocked down andincapped in secondswhen theyspam attacks. I even used my fastest sword, 61-249dmg, 1.6speed last night, and I did even hit first, lowering her posture. The problem was the TKM stood up and beat me senseless in seconds. They have both power and speed, while we have only power, and so we can't compete with them at all. Even if we bleed them, they meditate and they're fine


I think we swordsmen have a lack of moves. At master level, the only skills worth using are mind bleed 2 (which I use very rarely, fights never last that long), meleehit3, headhit3, and area attack (again rarely, since we only get to use it every 30 seconds). If we happen to dizzy them with area attack 3, its useful, but that seems to be a fluke. We have no state changing moves, we only have big slow powerful moves, but against other tough melee professions, that isn't enough, because they can take the hit and kill us anyway



I still love swordsman, and I won't give it up anytime soon, I just think we've some huge disadvantages.




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Soulburner69
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:30 am
#2

i had a dual with a swordsman last night, i won the first dual because he screwed up his macro, but the two others he kicked my ass. all he has was 0/4/0/2, whereas i am at 0/4/3(almost 4)/3. but i think it was my tactics... but it was fun none the less.



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BomsieBTC
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:40 am
#3

I've only beaten a TKM once, and I'm not sure how I did it.


He started out by knocking me down, and at that point I just gave up, and sat there. I had my power hammer out (for the first hit) but I was knocked down so fast that my two-hand hit three just sat there in the combat queue. Then, for some reason, I randomly stood up, and incapped him in one hit with the attack I tried to do first. It hit his mind, which was now 50% wounds. I couldn't believe it.




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Toxotes
Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:14 am
#4

I have always done very well in duels with other brawlers...but that's because I have master brawler. All I have to do is Lunge 2, Head Hit 3 and it's usually over. The pure Swordsman tree by itself is pretty weak for PvP.



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BomsieBTC
Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:55 am
#5






Toxotes wrote:
I have always done very well in duels with other brawlers...but that's because I have master brawler. All I have to do is Lunge 2, Head Hit 3 and it's usually over. The pure Swordsman tree by itself is pretty weak for PvP.




I have to agree. I matered brawler yesterday, and already I can tank better in PvE, and stand a chance in PvP.Even if knockdown doesn't work, I can always stick intimidate 2 on them, or use warcry 2 and they can't do anything.



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Cerano
Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:13 pm
#6

Hmm you guys suck ass... I use Power Hammer sliced to 601 Damage with 15% Max Dmg Powerup for 691 Max Dmg. I wear Voritor Lizard Scale Layered Ubese with 72% vs Kinetic and a 32% Kinetic Shield Generator. I use Mind Attacks and rarely it takes more then 1 hit to kill anyone.



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DukeHondo
Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:02 am
#7

Er you're using a power hammer? That may be your problem =) Duels are fast, you'll do a lot more damage with a 2hcs than a powerhammer in a 30sec-1min duel..


Open iwth a mind bleed, always.. And vs a Pikeman, his pools will drain very fast...Unlike TKA. So use 2handedhit3.. and you'll put a stop to his specials if you can land on the right pool. (This wont work for TKA)


Vs TKA it's really..hoping they're a dumbass.




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ZeathUnnh
Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:15 am
#8

My duels never last 30 seconds or more, and the ham cost with the two-hand curved sword is too high for the short duels. My hammerworks best for me.



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Toxotes
Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:26 am
#9

I duel with a power hammer. At Master I think it's really a waste to use anything else, as long as the hammer is sliced for damage.



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StGabriel
Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:29 am
#10

Er you're using a power hammer? That may be your problem =) Duels are fast, you'll do a lot more damage with a 2hcs than a powerhammer in a 30sec-1min duel..


For front-loaded damage a power hammer is your best bet. Use it early to get off an initial big bleed or use it last to finish them off. Or use it first against someone with a gun for a 1-shot.


If you are lunging, sure, use as low of a delay as you can.


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DukeHondo
Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:41 am
#11

My fighting style I use a lot of different moves.. So really Power Hammers worst for me.. (And my HAM cost arent insane on my 2hcs..but are on my power hammer... (



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