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Thread: Trying to deiced. Swordsman, or TKA?

GamerProX
Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:58 pm
#1

What makes Swordsman better than TKA, and what is TKA better at than Swordsman? Can Swordsman out damage TKA?


BTW, im a Master Creature Handler Wookiee, looking for a good combat class.



Headed to World of Warcraft


TechBoss
Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:06 pm
#2

I have played both to master, so I think I have full knowledge of both professions:


TKA



  • One damage type with maximum of AP1

  • +270 base damage, turns a vibro knuckler (~50-150) into 320-420. This can be upped some more with a good slice and some uber loot.

  • Can spam most specials, if not all, at the speed cap. Very good damage output.

  • Get knockdown and a posture change down, both are on seperate timers.

  • Gets several state effects

  • Can target all pools

  • Does not get bleeds

  • Has the meditation line which is very, very useful for a melee profession. Can stop disease, poison and bleeds. It also allows wound healing, recover from incap and a small, but nice buff. No other melee profession has this.

  • Defenses second only to fencer.

Swordsman



  • Two damage types both at AP2

  • Few more area attacks, but they are redundant.

  • Targests mind pool

  • Mind bleed

  • While faster at master, you are not going to hit the speed cap with the uber high damage hammers.

  • Not very much defense

  • 2-handed sword, fast as vibro knuckler, is 50-250. Far less damage than TKA.

If you want instant gratification, go with TKA as they are currently the most unbroken melee profession, maybe of any profession. The profession is designed well and works very nicely from top to bottom. Swordsman isn't as nice since the bleed nerf and while hitting very hard, doesn't hit the speed cap with some weapons/specials.





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3D4D
Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:13 pm
#3

TKA


Pros:


Meditation


Speed


Knockdown


Cons:


No weapon (unarmed) unless you use a Vibro Knuckle


Unless you go up in the Accuracy line you can't target a specific ham bar. UnarmedHead hit is not nearly as powerful as Swordsman Mind attacks.


Only Kinetic damage type is aBIG BIG BIG disadvantage when everyone can walk around in 80% kinetic armor.


Swordsman


Pros:


Multiple damage types (2 damage types, but future damage types would be more likely than TK new damage types)


Really good area attacks


Able to attack the un-healable mind pool


Mind bleeds


Medium Armor Piercing


Cons:


Slow attack


no Knock down attack



/meditate

Bria- Master Medic / Master Brawler / TKM ~(Hero of Tatooine)~

Scylla- Carbineer / TK ~(Hero of Tatooine)~

Tempest- Master Doctor / TKM
Aoxus
Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:22 pm
#4

like i always say... swordsman is the absolute best class if you do it right...


i attack near as fast as a tkm with my skill enhancers and always at LEAST triple the damage they do, if you get master brawler you get knockdown, its awesome in duels with mind attacks, overall, the best pve melee class, and we do have somewhat of a dizzy if you lunge2 and areahit3 together... doesnt always work though..not to mention damage types and ap2


though there are definate bad sides.. our equivilent to the dizzy of tka (mind bleed) has been completely nerfed.. i have seen the difference in pve of 1800 to 300... also we have HORRIBLE accuracy in pvp.. even if they have just tkm you miss 2 or 3 times out of 5..


this class is awesome to blend with rifleman
Jedika
Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:29 am
#5






GamerProX wrote:

What makes Swordsman better than TKA, and what is TKA better at than Swordsman? Can Swordsman out damage TKA?


BTW, im a Master Creature Handler Wookiee, looking for a good combat class.






tka is an uber class right now, hopefuly the devs fix that. After the art of combat we will most likely start outdamaging them, right now we cant, unless you have skilll tapes.



Kamy Kamy
~ Master Swordsman ~
~ Stop...HAMMERTIME ~
"Knockdown, Dizzy, a Swordsman craves these things not."

Zarqon
Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:47 am
#6

Nah, not entirely true, while TKA hit extremely fast, and therefor have a good DPS, there are other issues. TKA has nothing over light AP, which reduces damage a lot when fighting higher end mobs.Also TKA has only kinetic damage type, swordsmen can at least choose blast also, which may help effectively dealing more damage, as many high end mobs (and players)have higher kinetic resists.


I think the biggest pros for TKA is the handy KD/dizzy attack and also, of course, the meditation line.




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3D4D
Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:32 pm
#7

Sowrdsman only have horrible accuracy if they use the Power Hammer. Most Hammers are designed with max damage in mind. Instead you should ask a weapon smith to make a high accuracy hammer that you can actually hit things with.


Accuracy in PvP is very important.



/meditate

Bria- Master Medic / Master Brawler / TKM ~(Hero of Tatooine)~

Scylla- Carbineer / TK ~(Hero of Tatooine)~

Tempest- Master Doctor / TKM
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