Swordsman Archive

Yeah they gave us the pretty red for when we fight but they took away our mind bleed!!! There was no better feeling in pvp for when someone incapped me and they stood over me lol and stuff to only watch them go incap from my mind bleed! So they nerfed it!! The thing I never understood was that TK's are so strong?? Shouldn't a sword be stronger than a fist? I mean not sure about you guys but I will take a kick and punch over someone with a powerhammer any day!

Oh well time to give up on yet another proffession due toa stuipd nerf!

They didn't take away our mind bleed....

They did change the effects of bleeds so that nothing can be killed/incapped by them. A bleed willl now only bleed someone/thing down to 1 hp and no further, which in my opinion is an improvement.

give the bleed changes some time to get used to. i hated them at first, then as i got used to it, i dont mind it. and also it helps out up coming swordsmen, because that way they cant loose experience from a thing bleeding to death, they have to at least either stay and fight long enough to drop it, or hit it with a bleed, and play a game of keep away, then come in for the finish.

i'm a master swordsman and i am running 6k mauler missions on naboo, and sometimes they throw a mauler master into the works of the mission, they have high, blast and kinetic resists, so thus i run in, kill the weaker maulers, and hit the master with mind hit 2, and run away trying not to get shot, and then when it bleeds to 1 mind, i run in and finish it off. its either do that, or abort the mission because it has one thing that cons red, and is pretty much untouchable by anything that does blast, or kinetic damage.

I have PvP'd very little as a Swordsman. However, I noticed that I can do over 1000 damage to armored opponents with my damage sliced Power Hammer. I did it vs. a player with composite on. To me, using a mind bleed takes away an attack that could incap a player on the first try. Sure, I could get bleeds upwards of 3k on creatures but that'd be much less vs. a player and there's still that delay before it kicks in. Unless the person is weaker, they could incap you in the meantime. Overall, I have fun with swordsman. More fun than I had with my TKA on another server.

Hulceantor, you must be a retard. Yes, we have a position lower..hell.. we have like 4 or 5 of them. Just because we don't have dizzy blind knockdown the skill kick @ss in one move, It doesn't mean we can't be effective in pvp. Here's what you do.

This is more effective if you have master brawler.

Lower their stance, then *gasp*warcry them...delaying them in that position for 10 or 20 seconds. by that time, with a good cleaver they will be on the floor..or close to it. Unless your a moron and trying to take someones head out with a power hammer. PH is for bleed, then use something faster.

I agree the bleed changes take some getting used to. I have to say I prefer them now also. Swordsman is a great profession. It really friggin shines though when paired with Master Brawler.

I don't PVP as much, since the decay introduction, but I still have no fear of getting in there witha TK. Perhaps our bleed won't incap him, but I assure you it will stop them from spamming specials pretty quickly.

Don't give up on it yet. Also, at Master Swordsman, you get 2H Hit 3 which dizzies. That in conjunction with 2hlunge1 or 2hlunge2 will put someone on his back.

Oh, and get a good dmg sliced 2H Cleaver for low HAM PVP specials. Don't accept one with worse than a 2.5 base speed and -5range modifier though.

Crazy'Horse

well... I was upset too, cuz tka does a good deal of damage. I mean us having trouble with marksmen I understand, we are all bringing knives to gunfights. But the teras thing is kinda nutz, I am holding a power hammer. If I was only a heavy swordsman, I would have trouble with a tka master. It is hard to come back from a good knockdown. But, what you may consider is just getting defences from other professions, I liked that a lot. If you want just heavy sword, it is tough. TKM and MHS have same kd def, but teras has higher posture change def, and a good combat equilibrium. So bascically we are left with trying to posture change, warcry, intimidate, or just bleeding them before the knockdown hits, which doesn't work as well anymore. Really a lot of pvp in this game is centered around who does or doesn't get delayed or knocked down, or... flame coned lol. And if you don't have a good way around it it will be tough. But.. if it were easy there wouldn't be like 3 times more TKA masters than Heavy Sword Masters, or what ever that statistic was.

Well I am more of a PVP person so I need the bleed to incap players! Every other melee has something like dizzy or kd we don't have either! Oh yeah we can kneel someone once every 20 tries.

I am 3-3-3-3 in the Swordsman tree and will be master very soon but I am guessing I will drop it since it is worthless compared to say TK which baffles me.

Now swordsman does work great for mob killing but still nothing compared to TK.