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Thread: swordsman are the worst melee class... the devs lied to us and let us down!
the devs say that "swordsman have the best DPS"... but TKA's and fencers can outdamage us!!! what the hell is up with that...
sworsdman have the 3rd best DPS, the only modifying attack we have is a dizzy... and that doesnt evin work all the time. many of our attacks do the exact same thing, our bleeds (out bigest advantage) wont evin kill anymore, combat medics can heal mind damage, and counterattack is a whole other thing.
counterattack doesnt evin stop damage from getting through, we only get to make 1 basic attack back. so we cant evin tank.... and i cant remember the last time i have won a melee dule...
at least pikeman have block.. and i have seen a pikeman kill 4 darktroopers at once before i could kill 1.
there is no 2 ways about it... we suck
we also never got those weapons the devs promised us... we suck REAL bad... im a 0|4|4|4 swordsman so i havea good idea what im talking about... and i have been playing the game since day one... we simply suck.
I don't think swordsmen are the worst melee class, I just think it has the worst players.
After reading your post i came to a single conclusion...You are a fool!
Swordsman do not suck, you do. I can win almost any duel (not dule), one to two hits to mind with powerhammer usually does it. Ive beaten master commandos, believe me. When it comes to the cheap **edit** (kd, dizzy, block etc) we dont have it...we are above the cheap **edit** i like to think. When i duel somone, and we agree on nocheap stuff...i win about75% of the time. Now TKA are another matter...the master of tka is unbeatable in melee. Just not possible. Thats where most of my lossescome from. (Although i will never give up trying) I havnt reached master yet, but ive seen master swordsman in action..and they are impressive. We do have the highest damage btw, tka have lower dmg, but at higher speeds (same with fencers i believe) but per hit we are kings of dmg. Also you havnt put any points into your offensive branch. At the third skill i believe there are various upgrades which come in handy, especially the melee toughness addition. Anyway get master, and if you're still not satisfied then we can talk again.
Im tired, and gonna sleep now,
Sal
This guy does serve a purpose, though.
He keeps the misconception that we are horribly bad-off alive.
Keep it up man!
Khalaermol wrote:
This guy does serve a purpose, though.
He keeps the misconception that we are horribly bad-off alive.
Keep it up man!
*Waves hand at devs*
There is no issue here
Dev: there is no issue here
now move along, and nerf the....
Dev: I am going to move along and nerf the...
I have the feeling that Keanti wont be happy until a Swordsman can kill 25 Rancors and 54 Jedi's in one hit.
the devs say that "swordsman have the best DPS"... but TKA's and fencers can outdamage us!!! what the hell is up with that...
If you just look at numbers in the combat logs, I think TK puts out more damage per second than we do. But consider where that damage is going -it's scatteredover all 3 bars. I swear,TK does the closest thing to random damageI've seen in this game.
We, on the other hand, can do targeteddamage...headhit3 is x4damage and all on theblue bar!Long story short, we don't need higher DPS than TK, because our attacks are superior.
Anyway, before you give up,grabthat master swordsmanbox for a 40% increase inDPS.Then do yourself a favor and grab that master brawler box for another 25% increase in DPS, and a knockdown move, and more toughness.
Actually i do kind of have to agree with some of the points made here. I'm a swordsman and a TKA, basically the same skill boxesin each. We do great damage, When we hit!!! The accuracy is absolutely horrible. I do a heck of alot better in a fight with my tka skills than i ever do with my swordsman. Mainly because the accuracy on tka is so much better. I very rarely miss any of my attacks with tka, while i miss about 33% with my power hammer. Some better accuracy would be nice!
Inoch
As a master TK whoalways groups with a Master Swordsman I can tell you that TKs do not do more damage than MHS. In fighting two of the same mobs, I will have my 3 pets and myself on a mob, spamming UH3 while the mob is on the ground and my Swordsman groupmate's mob will die first. I'm not asking for nerfs(nerfs hurt everyone), just asking people to be a little more educated before they start spouting crap about how their class sucks.
Nirrep
Master Teras Kasi, Master Creature Handler, Master Scout
nirrep wrote:
As a master TK whoalways groups with a Master Swordsman I can tell you that TKs do not do more damage than MHS. In fighting two of the same mobs, I will have my 3 pets and myself on a mob, spamming UH3 while the mob is on the ground and my Swordsman groupmate's mob will die first. I'm not asking for nerfs(nerfs hurt everyone), just asking people to be a little more educated before they start spouting crap about how their class sucks.
Nirrep
Master Teras Kasi, Master Creature Handler, Master Scout
I have the same experience, for the most part. In duels, a TKM will beat anything melee, unless the TKM has no idea what he's doing. Basically, the speed is a huge advantage in duels that last about 10 seconds tops. A TKM can get in about three times as many hits as I can. That's the only difference I can see.
i got 4/3/3/4 in pikeman so i dont wanna hear crap about being a bad melee. as is obvious by the other posts, if you play smart and get to master, you'll do fine.
complain about accuracy? i couldn't hit my own foot with my pike. i've got 0/1/0/1 swordsman and i rarley miss with my 2h.
and yes, it's duel, not dule