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Thread: Is mixing melee and ranged a bad idea?

Shojjii
Tue May 24, 2005 7:39 am
#1

I was thinking of going with this template


MRifle/MSwords/Novice BH


However, I've heard that mixing melee and ranged it stupid, and I do not know what to do now.


I've also considered (melee)


MSwords/TKM/MFencer


Or perhaps (ranged)

MRifles/MMarksman/MCommando



Please help me out here...is mixing ranged and melee profession a bad idea?



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Corran85
Tue May 24, 2005 8:02 am
#2

Not nessicarily bad...but mixing a melee and ranged profession really takes away from other benefits you could have. You no longer need both professions to get the damage mitigation skills. Therefor, by concentrating on either ranged or melee templates, you can stack more skills and abilities. Generally a completely melee char, or a completely ranged char will be 'better' in the skills and abilities....but ultimately it is up to you...hope this helped, i know i wasnt as clear as i wanted to be.
TenlossDisruptor
Tue May 24, 2005 8:09 am
#3

It's a thorny one at the moment - It Should be clear cut - a person who can use a gun AND a sword should be more useful all-round than a guy who can JUST use a Sword or JUST use a Gun.. But sadly, that seems not to be the case at the moment. Personally, I'd say having the ability to damage from range with the option of switching to a better defended/more accurate/equally damaging melee profession if your preygets too close would be ideal, which is why my "normal" toon is labelled as Rifles/Swords at the moment - That's what I intend for her still, I'm trying Rifles/Commando at the moment (Mainly just because I love the Assault Armour ) But I'm the kind of person to stick with something I want even if it makes my life difficult



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Healer4344
Tue May 24, 2005 9:50 am
#4






TenlossDisruptor wrote:
It's a thorny one at the moment - It Should be clear cut - a person who can use a gun AND a sword should be more useful all-round than a guy who can JUST use a Sword or JUST use a Gun.. But sadly, that seems not to be the case at the moment. Personally, I'd say having the ability to damage from range with the option of switching to a better defended/more accurate/equally damaging melee profession if your preygets too close would be ideal, which is why my "normal" toon is labelled as Rifles/Swords at the moment - That's what I intend for her still, I'm trying Rifles/Commando at the moment (Mainly just because I love the Assault Armour ) But I'm the kind of person to stick with something I want even if it makes my life difficult






Actually no they shouldn't be more useful even IRL - because if you are trained in gun skills and trained in knife/sword skills because you would never be ableto focus on getting extremely proficient in one or the other therefore making you average in both unless you specialized in one and just learned basic use with the other - and to answer the original posters question



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Healer4344
Tue May 24, 2005 9:51 am
#5






TenlossDisruptor wrote:
It's a thorny one at the moment - It Should be clear cut - a person who can use a gun AND a sword should be more useful all-round than a guy who can JUST use a Sword or JUST use a Gun.. But sadly, that seems not to be the case at the moment. Personally, I'd say having the ability to damage from range with the option of switching to a better defended/more accurate/equally damaging melee profession if your preygets too close would be ideal, which is why my "normal" toon is labelled as Rifles/Swords at the moment - That's what I intend for her still, I'm trying Rifles/Commando at the moment (Mainly just because I love the Assault Armour ) But I'm the kind of person to stick with something I want even if it makes my life difficult






Actually no they shouldn't be more useful even IRL - because if you are trained in gun skills and trained in knife/sword skills because you would never be ableto focus on getting extremely proficient in one or the other therefore making you average in both unless you specialized in one and just learned basic use with the other - and to answer the original posters question -do



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Healer4344
Tue May 24, 2005 9:52 am
#6

erm sorry bout the triple post my pc glitched



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Shojjii
Tue May 24, 2005 10:28 am
#7

nice triple post....lol



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Amsterdoom
Tue May 24, 2005 11:10 am
#8






Shojjii wrote:

I was thinking of going with this template


MRifle/MSwords/Novice BH


However, I've heard that mixing melee and ranged it stupid, and I do not know what to do now.


I've also considered (melee)


MSwords/TKM/MFencer


Or perhaps (ranged)

MRifles/MMarksman/MCommando



Please help me out here...is mixing ranged and melee profession a bad idea?




dont got tkm/swords/fencer your healing skill will suck




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TenlossDisruptor
Tue May 24, 2005 11:10 am
#9






Healer4344 wrote:






TenlossDisruptor wrote:
It's a thorny one at the moment - It Should be clear cut - a person who can use a gun AND a sword should be more useful all-round than a guy who can JUST use a Sword or JUST use a Gun.. But sadly, that seems not to be the case at the moment. Personally, I'd say having the ability to damage from range with the option of switching to a better defended/more accurate/equally damaging melee profession if your preygets too close would be ideal, which is why my "normal" toon is labelled as Rifles/Swords at the moment - That's what I intend for her still, I'm trying Rifles/Commando at the moment (Mainly just because I love the Assault Armour ) But I'm the kind of person to stick with something I want even if it makes my life difficult






Actually no they shouldn't be more useful even IRL - because if you are trained in gun skills and trained in knife/sword skills because you would never be ableto focus on getting extremely proficient in one or the other therefore making you average in both unless you specialized in one and just learned basic use with the other - and to answer the original posters question - do not mix ranged and melee





Fair comment that it would be difficult to focus on becoming extremely proficient in either, but the Samurai were able to train in Swordsmanship and extremely accurate use of a Bow, so to say you'd "never" be able to learn how to use both to an expert level is untrue No flaming meant by the way, just differing opinion



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jmonty
Tue May 24, 2005 11:47 am
#10

that sounds like a good idea to me.


pre-cu, i was a carbineer-swordsman, trying to stack the counter attack, but that didn't work out too welll for me. post cu, i have no clue, but i was considering testing out a ranged/melee build..


maybe try it out with a free re-spec, and get back to us and let us know how it worked?






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MarStreller
Wed May 25, 2005 6:05 am
#11

I haven't actually tested this, but a ranged/melee template involving smuggler (or commando, but I recommend smuggler for the specials) might work pretty well. I say this because Smuggler has some pretty decent unarmed fighting bonuses.


Take a look at this build at http://home-tdknet.dyndns.org/swg/cb/


Master TKA

Master Pistoleer

Smuggler 0044 (or any two branches that includes xx4x for the Unarmed mods)


You'll really have to work it during duels and fight smart, but I think it could definately work. The reason I went with master pistoleer instead of master smuggler, is that the Master Smuggler box doesn't have any unarmed fighting mods, so I thought the points were better spent in pistoleer.


Out of curiousity, has anyone tried this?



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ga1352
Thu May 26, 2005 8:08 pm
#12

I'd say stick with all melee. tkm master swords pike xx3x master brawler.



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jmonty
Fri May 27, 2005 10:59 pm
#13





http://home-tdknet.dyndns.org/swg/cb/





wow, i've been looking for a character builder this good for a while.


thanks for putting the link here!





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