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Thread: SWORDSMEN NEEDS A KD!

Gnnr5
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:28 pm
#1

I think that SM needs a KD. Posture change isn't good enough. All the other Melee's have a KD but SM doesn't. Fencer atleast has dizzy which can KD. Plus I think TKA needs to be nerfed. TKA is way to strong. I think that TKA should be the weakest of the Melee professions. But it does need to be balanced. I say TKA should be weakest simply because, What would hurt more? Getting hit and the hand with a hand or a Sword?



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Asmoday_Galamoth
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:43 pm
#2

Seeing as how KD in general is going to be nerfed to hell once this combat rebalance goes through, i think we would be better off simply asking for higher mellee defense or other defense mods.
Harmonius
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:50 pm
#3

We do get a dizzy attack. Area3 inflicts dizzy and a posture change to everything around you.

Also, TKA should not be the 'weakest'. It seems a bit hypocritical to want one class to be much stronger while wishing another to be much weaker. We want balance.

You're right that a sword should do more damage than a fist, but it already works like that. We can do 5000+ easily, while they cannot. Instead, they can punch much faster than we can swing a big sword.

Once again, balance, not 'nerfs'.



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APEist_theReb
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:51 pm
#4

noob.

we have dizzy, its not very effective, but we have it.

go cry nerf somewhere else, i believe most of us want to keep the swordsman boards clean of nerf cries.

its not tka's fault there so good in pvp. mitigation isnt effecting them, devs problem. armor piercing isnt working (in our favor i mean), devs problem. if mitigation was working on them i believe u would find them quite easy to kill. they are the weakest pve profession, tho meditate compensates for it (u ever seen a tka try and solo a kimo or a nightsister elder, dont think so). They only have one type of damage, they cant bleed, but being able to hit any ham pool makes up for it. i believe there actually quite balanced, just the bugs are makeing it seem like they are over powered.

how bout instead of crying nerf u ask for some additions to swordsman, like more ranged/melee defense. thats the only semi good part of ur post, "swordsman needs a kd".

hope this discourages u.

o, and btw, if u really want a true kd, not the kd we can do with hit 3/lunge or area 3, then get master brawler.



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ccmetal555
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:52 pm
#5






Gnnr5 wrote:

I think that SM needs a KD. Posture change isn't good enough. All the other Melee's have a KD but SM doesn't. Fencer atleast has dizzy which can KD. Plus I think TKA needs to be nerfed. TKA is way to strong. I think that TKA should be the weakest of the Melee professions. But it does need to be balanced. I say TKA should be weakest simply because, What would hurt more? Getting hit and the hand with a hand or a Sword?







Swordsman has posture change attacks. Area Attack 3 can dizzy and posture change down, and I believe the sweeps probably have posture changes also, although I never use them. Also Lunge2 from Master Brawler is a KD.


You need to think out your ideas for nerfing TKA a little more... I'm sorry but the reasons you listed are just pure crap. TKA is probably a little overpowered as it stands right now (in PvP, not PvE) because of the ease of applying a Dizzy/KD and Melee Mitigation not affecting them much.


All professions should have their strengths and weaknesses. You shouldn't be able to say "TKA is the weakest."


Sambuka
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:26 pm
#6

Quick solution to a Swordsman KD problem.


Master the Brawler proffesion. It not only gives you warcry2(a 20 second delay) and intimidation2, you get 2handed lunge2, which just another fancy name for 2handed Knockdown!





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Jedika
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:41 pm
#7

sm can kd if u make some1 dizzy enough then make a posture change when they try to get back to original position they will be so dizzy that they will get kd... i know cause pickets did that once to me i think



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ins0mniac
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:50 pm
#8






Sambuka wrote:

Quick solution to a Swordsman KD problem.


Master the Brawler proffesion. It not only gives you warcry2(a 20 second delay) and intimidation2, you get 2handed lunge2, which just another fancy name for 2handed Knockdown!








ur right, if u want a sword kd, get master brawler u also get more mods to CoB too. Plus we do have a dizzy, twohandhit 3 also dizzy's a target, so go out there and master it lol



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ins0mniac
Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:08 pm
#9

didnt mean to post twice



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DarkBShadow
Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:42 pm
#10






ins0mniac wrote:
didnt mean to post twice






yeah butyou ment to post 3 times. jking.


also just to let you know person who wants kd. kd isnt that great in pvp.your most likely miss everyone with a kd then you will land it.


and if people keep crying that they want a kd we might get one and have our damage lowered.


what needs to be done is the fact that we have like 8 posture down attacks and they are all worthless



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Snowbacca
Fri Feb 06, 2004 12:43 am
#11

Yea master brawler and 2 handed lunge works great



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WarFerret
Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:24 am
#12

We definitely don't need a kd/dizzy like the TKAs, since we already have *area* dizzies - if you have a carbineer with knockdown in your group that's great in PvE

What I would like to see however is an attack that stuns, or maybe just add stun into one of our head hits - whacking someone in the head with a 25 lb explosive sledgehammer is going to leave them seeing little tweeting birdies quite regularly I would have thought.



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