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Thread: changing template help/opinions please
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sknomad
Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:08 pm
#1
ok.. first off, let me state that I'm not a PVP'er, but I do like to hunt the high end mobs for pve. I'm hoping that maybe some of you swordsmen out there can give me some suggestions or opinions on which way I should go here..
my current template is:
master brawler
master swords
FS melee speed 4
fencer 4440
medic 2040
artisan 0030 (for the vendor)
This template works excellent for pve, however... I'm getting tired of working elders and krayts for 15 minutes and getting warm hats as loot (I seem to have the worst luck with loot). So, I'm seeking a change of sorts.
I am not a rich player, infact I'm one of those perpetually poor people (hover around 1 mill)... but I'm hoping to change that in some way with the template change, and hopefully some of you can offer some guidance, or share experiences.
I'm thinking of either switching to either..
master swords
FS speed 4
master scout
ranger 0040 (for tracking and meat harvesting)
medic 2040
and dump the remaining points into FS skills
This is quite a drastic change, and reduction of a LOT of defenses... but lots of potential for money via resource gathering.
or
master swords
FS speed 4
master doc
and dump the rest of the points into FS skills
Doctors make a lot of money quickly, sitting on their butts and talking to people.. I know this, but the problem would be, I would be buying my packs, as I don't have the money to buy the resources myself to craft them (exp tapes, meat, etc). And I know buying my packs, I would still make probably 4-6k per buff, and still be strong enough to solo sisters and krayts and stuff with ease.. but the money wouldn't be as good as if I took ranger
So.. I wonder if anyone has opinions out there on those templates.. or if anyone can suggest a better money maker that's fun, while still keeping master swords.
And a question for the scouts out there.. does a harvesting droid automatically boost my harvesting skill 110 points (or whatever it is) even with just novice scout? or would I be able to harvest much more with a droid + full scout/ranger harvesting skills?
Thanks in advance..
my current template is:
master brawler
master swords
FS melee speed 4
fencer 4440
medic 2040
artisan 0030 (for the vendor)
This template works excellent for pve, however... I'm getting tired of working elders and krayts for 15 minutes and getting warm hats as loot (I seem to have the worst luck with loot). So, I'm seeking a change of sorts.
I am not a rich player, infact I'm one of those perpetually poor people (hover around 1 mill)... but I'm hoping to change that in some way with the template change, and hopefully some of you can offer some guidance, or share experiences.
I'm thinking of either switching to either..
master swords
FS speed 4
master scout
ranger 0040 (for tracking and meat harvesting)
medic 2040
and dump the remaining points into FS skills
This is quite a drastic change, and reduction of a LOT of defenses... but lots of potential for money via resource gathering.
or
master swords
FS speed 4
master doc
and dump the rest of the points into FS skills
Doctors make a lot of money quickly, sitting on their butts and talking to people.. I know this, but the problem would be, I would be buying my packs, as I don't have the money to buy the resources myself to craft them (exp tapes, meat, etc). And I know buying my packs, I would still make probably 4-6k per buff, and still be strong enough to solo sisters and krayts and stuff with ease.. but the money wouldn't be as good as if I took ranger
So.. I wonder if anyone has opinions out there on those templates.. or if anyone can suggest a better money maker that's fun, while still keeping master swords.
And a question for the scouts out there.. does a harvesting droid automatically boost my harvesting skill 110 points (or whatever it is) even with just novice scout? or would I be able to harvest much more with a droid + full scout/ranger harvesting skills?
Thanks in advance..
sknomad
Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:26 pm
#2
another option I was just playing around with.. that would seem to work ok.. but it would likely take forever to get decent quantities of meat/hide/etc to harvest..
master brawler
master swords
medic 2040
scout 0040
fencer 0440
FS melee speed 4
master brawler
master swords
medic 2040
scout 0040
fencer 0440
FS melee speed 4
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:36 am
#4
Swords/Doc = Money making by looting and buffing peps...imo u wont get real rich by buffing peps cuz u have to buy the packs and bivoli...and its not that funny sitting 3h at cnet sp and do the buffing-mokk...BUT its a great moneysafer if u can buff yourself each and any time...
I love this combo but im more into looting rather than buffing for money...
Swords/Ranger: U will need NO defense in any way!Swordis crush true rancors whilegrinding the profso why fear any critters as a master? Its a good way to make some money if the right meat or hides/bones spawn but i hate it...running from lair to lair and kill 100 of 100 for gathering avian...just borring...
If u wanne go that way maybe have a look at:
Master Swords/Scout/Ranger 0040/Artisan 0030(setting up a vendor) and Novice Med....leaves u with 22sp ready to spend into FS or more medic
joules-winfield
Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:54 pm
#5
Master Swords/Scout/Ranger 0040/Artisan 0030(setting up a vendor) and Novice Med....leaves u with 22sp ready to spend into FS or more medic
this is the combo u want its solid and wiht a doc buddy you shouldnt have any problems killing w/e u need
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:21 pm
#6
joules-winfield wrote:
Master Swords/Scout/Ranger 0040/Artisan 0030(setting up a vendor) and Novice Med....leaves u with 22sp ready to spend into FS or more medic
this is the combo u want its solid and wiht a doc buddy you shouldnt have any problems killing w/e u need
Yeah it is...
sknomad
Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:46 pm
#7
thanks for the input guys.. keep it comin
I'm still fighting a moral battle for letting go of the fencer state defenses.. hehe
I'm still fighting a moral battle for letting go of the fencer state defenses.. hehe
Luti0n
Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:59 am
#8
What by chance are you doing with your 10 lots? I've made a living by selling radioactive power with my lots. You're only dealing with 1 shift a week, everyone needs power and you don't have to do much to find a decent harvest location. If you don't want to spend the time/skill credits surveying you could offer to rent your lots to someone that will give you a waypoint every week. You can get about 250k/week for this depending on your server.
-Lution
JediForceSeeker
Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:03 pm
#9
As for your Proffession question, let me give ya the basic picks of the stackers:
Master Brawler SPD+T+COB+5 M& R
Really useful not to mention the Intimidate 2 and Warcry 2, adds Toughness and Speed, Center of being, some Ranged and Melee Defense, Its also very useful for defense profs, you dont waste any SKP.
4xxx in Teras Kasi PB and FOW
Meditate, Cure Poison and Disease out of battle, and Power Boost and Force of Will. Heal wounds too.
x3xx in Teras Kasi Dizzy 5 Blind 10 KD 20 PC 30 15 Stun
This line has minimal State Defense, but if you have SKP you dont know what to do with, the +20 KD def on the 3rd block is nice.
xxx4 in Teras Kasi 62 M Def 45 R Def 71 Def Acuity
has good Melee/Ranged Defense, Fencer's is better, but this line is better for those who don't have Fencer in their Template.
4xxx in Fencer 69 M def 69 R def
Alot better than TK's Melee and Ranged Def, incorparate it if you want.
x4xx in Fencer 50 KD 50 PC
Great KD and PC def, worth the SKP, works well with Master Brawler(so you dont waste any SKP in getting x44x Brawler)
xx4xin Fencer 40 Blind 40 Dizzy 20 Intimidate
Good State Def, works well with x4xx in Fencer
xx4x in Pikeman 20 to all state Def, including R & M Def
Works good, but not really worth it.
IMO Master Doc is too much SKP unless you PvP against DoT whores.
Good Luck with your stacking.
sknomad
Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:48 am
#10
err..
think you missed the point of my post
but thx for the break down hehe
think you missed the point of my post
DrNeek
Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:00 am
#11
I have MasterSwords, MasterDoctor, Novice scout and 3 FS skills... no points left. I'll soon have to drop novice scout when i have enough FS points to get another FS Skill.
My first profession was master Doc. I bought a 30 set of buffs for 120k and sold them at 15k each. A guildmade gave me just enough bivoli to sell them. That was a profit of 330k. With that, i bought another set of buffs for 120k and a small crate of bivoli. After I sold those, i was able to buy 2 sets, sell them, get a little more bivoli ... and so on...
Point is that even if you don't make your own buffs, you can make excellent money with doc. Sure it's boring but when i go get avian meat, doing chokus missions gets moring fast also. What i love about buffing is that even though I don't use a fully automated macro, i've setup a macro that applies the 6 buffs automatically with the right delay. And while I do that, i'll watch the game, eat or do something else with the computer. After the 6 x 17 seconds, you check your email, find who's next, select the player and click on the buff macro and go back to whatever you are doing.
Obviously, making your own buffs and doing the buffing yourself is best but like you say, if you dont' have the money to buy all premium ressources and make them, buy them pre-made and you can still make decent money. You can even buff at a lower price without bivoli. Drop your price to 10-12k and dry buff. People go for that also when they don't need to go super high. Me, without bivoly i can buff for 2222 with my own packs, or 2450 with +23 bivoly.For most people, getting 2222 is way enough so they are happy about paying less for the buff.
Point is, even if you buy pre-made buff sets, you'll make great money.
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