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Thread: Is swordsman worth it (High end PvE) Without speed cap?

Elexorien
Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:14 pm
#1

Using the dps calculator, it seems as a fencer i do equal DPS or more than i would as a master swordsman without any speed for it - i know once speedcapped that number doubles, or trebles but until then apart from blast damage it doesnt seem worth it... is that why everyone is TKA?

Im looking for what to do on top of MFencer / MBrawler - though having trouble deciding

I like oging hunting with my TKA friend, and were always hunting NS (Protectors, Spell Weavers etc) No elders TYVM!

Mainly because we lack the DPS to kill anything higher..

Anyway, sorry for all the questions



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AnimalMagnet
Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:22 pm
#2

A TKM can't do much damage inalot of high-end PvE (especially NS Elders) due to the kinetic damage type. Fencer only has access to AP1 I think so compare that to a PH with Blast + AP2 and I think you'll find that even a non-speed capped swordsman can do well vs. youin regard toDPS.

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Elexorien
Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:24 pm
#3

Yeah, what i was talking was all theory not vs Resistances, Armor, Damage types etc, i mean - i know swordsman is a lot better at PvE than any of the others in regards to damage types, its just speed i worry about - and the CURB. I fear the worst for you guys



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Cotter2589
Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:29 pm
#4


i still loved swordsman without being speed capped and i would do fine,just need some decent hammers

Message Edited by Cotter2589 on 01-20-2005 04:29 PM



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Ochiir
Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:32 am
#5

I soloed my first elder yesterday as only master swords and masterbrawler and some doc for healing states. I have no speedtapes and i was using a 600+ (cant remember exact damage) max damage PH. Took my a good 33 minutes to get her downbut wasnt that much of a problem realy.

The main problem with fencer it the only decent PvE weapon you have is a gaffi with no AP
Othdrakk
Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:05 am
#6


Swordsman is a very fun & effective PVE prof.

I had so much fun with it, yes i were speedcaped but i doubt you wouldnt have fun without cap.

You will be able to solo pretty much anything with just speedcaped swordsman and some medic

Message Edited by Othdrakk on 01-21-2005 05:17 AM



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TenlossDisruptor
Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:34 am
#7

I spent almost a year as an uncapped swordsgirl, using 600ish dmg PH's... had lots of fun and killed lots of stuff wether it's aseffective as other profsor not, it's stillhella fun and that's what counts in my book



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Loupgaroo
Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:44 am
#8

Master Fencer: Uber Tank, defender - nice to have Stun damage when grinding FS. Not that_many "normal animals" that have Stun-protection. Speed-capped as master. Get a stun baton 270+ damage and have a lot of fun. Awesome moves. The simply don't hit you - hehe (use aircake too)

Master Swordsman (with M.Brawler (+80) and non FS Skills): Need weaponspeed 1.6 to speedcap with hit3) - but use headhit3 instead! You cap on 2.1 there. But since Powerhammmers have WAY higher speed than that you probably will be using Scythe most. And therefore you loose the blast damage. But you still have ap:medium so you do alot more damage than a fencer.

Fencer is defense
Swordsman is damagedealer

as simple as that....

Take melee speed IV in FS and things will lighten up alot, pal (+12 speed)



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Tajiri-the-warrior
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:44 am
#9


swordsman is a beast regardless in pve. it also depends on the rest of the template. im Mswordsman, TKM, Mbrawler and i own pve as well as pvp..of course me being speedcapped with a 800 max damage hammer helps alot too.


i also have some fencer defenses

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tsivozi
Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:32 am
#10


you're already master Brawler. with swordsman give you +80 speed. invest 4 points in FS melee speed ( +12 )and you will achieve 92 where cap is around 95.


and i can assure you a 92 speed Swordsman is nothing to compare to TKM for PVE specially with Fencer states defense

Message Edited by tsivozi on 01-21-2005 07:34 PM



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TXwarrior
Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:13 pm
#11

Yes, swordsman is great. MAX DAMAGE!!!!I still don't have mine capped and I'm killing everything.I'm just praying the CU does not kill our profession.



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Daunte89
Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:12 am
#12

Personally I would use a 6xx max Geo Hammer, they can get to 4.9 speed pre-slice. And then use speed powerups. They're cheap as chips too...
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