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Thread: Counterattack +15 to max at master or +25?

Afterthot
Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:50 am
#1


I've done a few searches, and everyone that came close to answering my specific question (see above) totally disagreed with each other, pretty much 50/50


At Master Swordsman, I have 110 counterattack.

Will +15 get me to the maximum cap at 125?

Or will +25 ( the most allowed to be added to amod/stat with attachments) cap me at 135?


I ask 'cause Ive got a nice belt with +15 counterattack, and a CA is being offered to me at the +10 range... see my problem?


I remember an old thread from a year ago... Documention, documentation, documentation... seems applicable here


Message Edited by Afterthot on 01-20-2005 08:47 AM



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NHGLethos
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:47 am
#2

There is asoft cap, for normal skills + attachments of 125, as you mentioned so, i dont see why you would get any improvement after 125 according to the offical ruling on the softcap.

Only think which could improve it further beyond 125 are food/drink/stat boosters stim (if/when they exist) in "+counterattack" form



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JediForceSeeker
Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:43 am
#3

simply put its plus 15




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Afterthot
Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:11 pm
#4

Understood, Thanks =)



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JediForceSeeker
Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:37 am
#5

np, once you cap and have a center macro running, you start to notice the difference





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ZagaSabin
Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:24 am
#6

I believe you can cap your skills at 125 using Master swords and a little bit of Carbs. Then you can go too up too 150 with Mod tapes.


Basically works like Melee Defense correct, caps at 125, 150 with tapes and 175 with food. It does work btw cause my defense stacker who has like 175 in melee defense before any tapes or food caps at 125. When I take the Melee defense food too get me too 150 I notice a difference.




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Afterthot
Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:36 pm
#7

gah! See what I mean? Documentation, documentation, documentation


Swordie correspondent wherefore art thou?


I do notice a diference just with the 125 (+15 from belt) would love if it could actually head to 150 tho...







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Oberon131313
Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:05 pm
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ZagaSabin wrote:

I believe you can cap your skills at 125 using Master swords and a little bit of Carbs. Then you can go too up too 150 with Mod tapes.


Basically works like Melee Defense correct, caps at 125, 150 with tapes and 175 with food. It does work btw cause my defense stacker who has like 175 in melee defense before any tapes or food caps at 125. When I take the Melee defense food too get me too 150 I notice a difference.




this is correct


the inherent defensive mods have a cap of 125, with a SEA +25 cap, and SL and food bonuses stack over that as well.



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NHGLethos
Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:11 am
#9

please just check the stickies... quote from our previous swordsman correspondent... gorecki



Dodge, Block, Counterattack, Melee Defense, and Ranged Defense are all capped at 125.

This cap counts for all skill mods and SEAs.

That means: a player can have +125 from skillmods or +100 from skillmods and+25 from SEAs, but any combination of skillmods and SEAs that cause one of those skills to go above 125 is treated as 125.

Only food, Squad Leader and Stronghold bonuses should apply on top of that.


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Afterthot
Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:04 am
#10

Thanks again everyone. I do try to read all the stickies, and do a little forumsearch as well. Been away for six months and just wanted the current info...


Sometimes its just a lot to read and sometimes time is limited... sometimes



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ravingbantha
Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:30 pm
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ZagaSabin wrote:

I believe you can cap your skills at 125 using Master swords and a little bit of Carbs. Then you can go too up too 150 with Mod tapes.


Basically works like Melee Defense correct, caps at 125, 150 with tapes and 175 with food. It does work btw cause my defense stacker who has like 175 in melee defense before any tapes or food caps at 125. When I take the Melee defense food too get me too 150 I notice a difference.






The cap is 125... period. CA's and AA's will not raise this up. The only thing that can effectivly raise that cap is a Sqaud Leaders abilities, food, and the new stims. This was confirmed on the TKM forums by their corospondant.
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