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Thread: How important is melee and ranged def?!?!
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Hapsnykel
Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:45 pm
#1
I was wondering since i heard alot of ppl saying that against high-end mobs (elders, DWB, Vette) melee and ranged def is more or less useless.
I have until now, put a lot of effort into maxing (or nearly) melee and ranged def.
My template is :
Master Brawler
Master Swordsman
Fencer 4-4-4-0
Pikeman 0-0-4-0
Combat Prowess 0-0-4-4
Medic 2-0-4-0
Which add up to some nice defences :
melee def : +111
Ranged def : +99
def. vs blind : +70
def. vs dizzy : +80
def. vs .KD : +95
def. vs .PC (down) : +80
def. vs. stun : +70
def. vs. intim : +40
would i be better of dropping fencer to 0-4-4-0 and perhaps instead try and get pistoleer 0-0-4-0 or something like that, both for PvE and PvP?!?
Any input is much appreciated.
kestrellklein
Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:54 am
#2
Very close to my template. My suggestion to you, is to drop the pike, and take up 4000TKA for the med line. Comes in VERY handy when soloing (especially things that disease) and overall, I would not trade it in for some state defenses IMO.
Hapsnykel
Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:46 am
#3
Thx for your input,
i did have the TK meditate line and i loved, but after beeing stunned constanlty i decided to drop it and pick up some def.vs stun from the defensive line in pikeman. I do miss meditate but i am not planning on picking it up again, allthough if i was convinced that melee and ranged def. is not that important i was tempted to drop melee/ranged def.line from fencer + something else and then pick up the meditate line again.
But that would mean that my melee/ranged def. gets pretty low.
Perhaps i should just keep what i got and then be happy with that 
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:20 am
#4
While PvE u can forget about rmelee/ranged defense...ranged migration is imo more value....pistoleer 0040 is a good thing to have...
Message Edited by Naruk_The_Wookiee on 10-20-2004 04:20 AM
Hapsnykel
Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:43 am
#5
then let me refraise my question, how important is melee/ranged def. in PvP?!?!?
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:41 am
#6
Hapsnykel wrote:
then let me refraise my question, how important is melee/ranged def. in PvP?!?!?
More important cuz it stands accuracy against melee/ranged defense....thats why a blinded swordsman has some hard times to hit a defense stacked fencer running cob...citrus snowcake will be one of your best swordsman friends....i dont know how about people pvp on your server...on mine only friendly duels are dot-free...thats why i switched from m-brawler/tka/swords to my current template...
damonbrinkley
Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:07 am
#7
Melee and ranged defense are useless in high-end PvE due to the NPCs/creatures high accuracy. It is much more useful in PvP though.
Hapsnykel
Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:22 am
#8
so the bottom line is this.
PvE againts high level mobs = melee/ranged def. not particuarly important
PvP = (extremely) important
I'll keep my template for now, i like it and it appears that it will be allright for both PvE and PvP
Thank you all for your contribution.
capzyL
Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:53 am
#9
just get doc for PvE, a swordsman/doc or even beter a swordsman/mBrawler/rest in doc is the best possible template for PvE, state defs dont do much diffence to high enough lvl mobs
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