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Thread: killing time

hamhamthe3rd
Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:45 pm
#1



i dont want to, but i have to pick up combat againso i was thinking between tka or swordman. ill be hangin onto doctor so i only have room for either tka or swordman. i have been a tkmon another server but never played swordman at all. i know not of them. tka was fun for me but is swordman really easier? aguy was telling me i should go swordmanbecause no tkm can touch him. i think he was too much of a fan of his profession to give me accurate advice.


i would like to hear from someone who has played both, though its not necessarily necessary, and who is not blind to their professions downsides. i want to knowwhich combo would make me the more efficient killer, md/tkm or md/ms? ive been leaning towards tka because i played with it before but it couldnt hurt to try a different profession if its worthwhile.
Tathizar
Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:47 pm
#2

i have them both mastered right now.... depends and basically boils down toteras kasi for PvPand swordsmen for PvE so whatever you plan to do more of.



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DarthVillanus
Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:31 pm
#3

Doc/swordsman is a great pve/pvp template. I think everyone underestimates swordsman in pvp but if you are speed capped and using snowcake you can be the most lethal player on the battlefield.


With my 950 dmg acklay power hammer, I can doanywhere between200-700mind dmg with headhit3 through 85% composite. On a person like a rifleman with no melee toughness or melee mit, I can take out his mind in a few swings.



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jrt
Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:35 pm
#4

Sorry but i would pick pike lol even thow its not up there get a 1000+ pike you are going to be good and i dont liek DOTS but maybe you do hehe...



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DarthVillanus
Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:01 pm
#5





Jrt wrote:


Sorry but i would pick pike lol even thow its not up there get a 1000+ pike you are going to be good and i dont liek DOTS but maybe you do hehe...






I disagree with this statement. I recently gave up pikeman for swordsman. I had a 1100 dmg pike and some nice mind fire lances. I can tell you pikeman is terrible for damage output. Not onlydoes their best attack, polearmhit3, have a measly 3 x dmg modifier, it's also a posture change making it so keeping someone kd is impossible.


Pikeman's leghit is in no way comparable to the power of swordsman's headhit3. With my 1100 dmg lva I was doing 200 dmg max with polearmhit3to a TKM and he wasn't even wearing any armor.



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jrt
Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:02 pm
#6

Hmm lol i do killer damage and area KD and Dizzy is great. im not going to start a fight but i love it I can KD almost every time and it owns jedi. Some people dont liek other Pros i love this one and its good to me. I think that its all about the player. I have also have mastered all the brawler pros and pike is killer and same with Swords. We need a blast weapon for elders Well good luck with what you pick.



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Marssk
Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:37 am
#7

IM still 2443, but i can beat up my tkm friend with headhit3 and both mind bleeds.



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ranfae
Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:07 am
#8

having been all brawler prof's i have stopped at swordie cos i love it.

but in their own right they r all great (cept fencer, they suck)

tka - if u get hold of a 250+ vk then ull goin to hurt ppl, plus with the combo warcry, intimidate, dizzy, lunge, kd, u cant do a lot wrong in pvp

pikey - if u have tapes its amazing, whipping on all manner of dots is great, fire kills so u dont have to ever hit em...pve kinda poor i found, even with a massive dmg axe

swordie - my home luvving it...have no skill tapes only +9 fs speed atm and well i can take ppl down with my scythe...my ph misses alot, one quarrel with it...no kd....cant go master brawler...means losing sum doc and i like buffing.

but as i get teh cash il get the accuracy and speed tapes then i can get my acklay hammer out and have sum jolly good head bashing fun ^^


of course these r jsut my opinions, of course i miss tk for the wound healing capabilities but well im doc now

power boost was always nice, and the tk mlee defense and acuity is great


can see me being a swordie for a long time



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MinimeAbala
Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:02 pm
#9

iv mastered both, hers my take on them.


tkm: if your buffed, armored, with 250+ max vibro's, take some food (the knockdown defense food to) and get some raktirian burnout sauce. adds a bonus to tkm damage so you get even stronger. in an unarmored duel, youll win almost every time (however, watch out for fencers with strong gaffi batons. i had a 290 max , althought not strong, i dueld a tkm in an un armored duel. i won every time, out of about 4 duels. just tkm with no kd defense food or other professions are to easy if your fast enough, becuase there incredibly easy to kd. however, if your prepared, there speed and extra damage is amazing. pve, against low kinetic and low armor, they also kill quickly.


swordsman though, cant be touched by tkm in pve. speed capped swordsman with a good hammer, plus blast damage and high damage modifiers and armor piercing. in an unarmored duel (this is assuming the tkm is just tkm and sworsman is just swordsman. no master brawler or backing) the tkm would win due to the fact that he has toughness, and templeted dizzies and kd's. swordsman with master brawler and speed capped though, would be a very interesting fight. personally, iv beaten tkm's as my swordsman/fencer/master brawler/4-0-0-1 tkm with swordsman, so its not impossible. both are very good professions in pvp that are underrated as good melee's. as my thai boxing instructor told me, its not the person who performs the move, becuase dispite size or weight, even the most feeble of builds can be deadily with proper training"




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AriasImmortal
Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:10 pm
#10



Tathizar wrote:
i have them both mastered right now.... depends and basically boils down toteras kasi for PvPand swordsmen for PvE so whatever you plan to do more of.





since TKA is worthless in pvp and high end pve except as a tank, go with swords.



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hamhamthe3rd
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:56 pm
#11

i wont be pvp though i dont get to decide that at times. when i do have to fight im not looking to kill the enemy, im more of support person being a doctor and such. whatever can make me live longer is good. i dont need to knock out ppl myself just survive so i can heal and do cures. thats for when im forced to fight.


as for creatures, i want to be able to kill a variety of them. i know a good number of them have heavy kinetic resist making it take longer for tka to kill them but they can get the job done.however that factcan easily be changed in a patch. maybe in their combat revamp.


anyway i have decided with the swordman because he has more types of damage. thx for the replies.
volta
Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:30 pm
#12






DarthVillanus wrote:

Doc/swordsman is a great pve/pvp template. I think everyone underestimates swordsman in pvp but if you are speed capped and using snowcake you can be the most lethal player on the battlefield.


With my 950 dmg acklay power hammer, I can doanywhere between200-700mind dmg with headhit3 through 85% composite. On a person like a rifleman with no melee toughness or melee mit, I can take out his mind in a few swings.






Sorry I find this very hard to believe. Im weilding a PH 3 times as powerfull atm and it averages around 200-600 damage per headhit3 on 85%+ Composite. Unless my apologies if your talking about 950 min dmg not max.




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Tathizar
Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:49 pm
#13

let me rephrase that... tk is better in pvp than swords, and tk is definately better for dueling than swords.



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