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Thread: Template Questions answered!

formatyo
Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:53 pm
#27

What do you guys think of this template?


Master Brawler

Master Swordsman

Dr -- 3/0/4/0


any critique? Strengths/Weaknesses? This will let me heal all states but disease correct? and use some really powerful meds. I assume the strengths of this template would be to use intimidate 2 and warcry to my advantage. I was contemplating putting the Master Brawler points into some defensive stacks in Fencer or TKM. Where would you recommend those SP's go and how do you think it would compare to the one using Master Brawler?
TreindTyde
Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:08 am
#28






Keuller wrote:





TreindTyde wrote:
I still can't figure out how you do it like that, just the amount of this I recieve to my mind make just 2 brandy insanity. What race and template are you?







I'm a MHS/4440doc/0002 Pikeman (Just for the dots in PvP). Human. 900/1100/1000 mind stats. I log on near the stronghold, pop 2 brandies, buff myself (1900pt buffs) and go kill NS. Elders take a while but aren't too tough to solo unless they pull a stun baton.

I firmly believe firstaid is required to kill elders, the bleeds are too nasty to not have it.





Ahhhh I see, as a twi'lek I max mind stats out but it's only 1100/500/500 so my brandy and ahrisa put up about where you are with 2 brandys, damn chosing twi'lek as my race. The bleeds don't seem to bother me much, I can usually take an elder down in about 7 minutes and end with like 1500/2300 mind or so.



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TreindTyde
Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:19 pm
#29

Not enough SPs.



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Daishidemon
Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:37 pm
#30

My current template, which works pretty well for me:


Master Sword

Master Fencer

Master Brawler

2240 Medic

Full Melee speed line, and I have the points to do the Melee Accuracy line when it is unlockable. Combat Prowess, that is.





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LethalD
Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:13 pm
#31

Master HS/Master Brawler/4400 fencer/4304 TKA/0040 medic...........I haven't been incapped by health or action in 6 months.



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KozakMamalyga
Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:32 pm
#32


>>No Nightsister killer should even consider a template without at least 2000 medic.

>>You must be able to heal bleeds and heal

>>yourself to have any chance.


Sorry could not resist. You are really a Noob.

I solo elders and don'thaveeven novice medic.

You don't need to heal yourself in the battle - you will just die faster.

Get TKA to heal yourself after and you will get power boost.


Mish




Message Edited by KozakMamalyga on 09-10-2004 05:34 PM

TreindTyde
Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:21 pm
#33






KozakMamalyga wrote:


>>No Nightsister killer should even consider a template without at least 2000 medic.

>>You must be able to heal bleeds and heal

>>yourself to have any chance.


Sorry could not resist. You are really a Noob.

I solo elders and don'thaveeven novice medic.

You don't need to heal yourself in the battle - you will just die faster.

Get TKA to heal yourself after and you will get power boost.


Mish





Message Edited by KozakMamalyga on 09-10-2004 05:34 PM







You insult people then make yourself look like a fool. TKA heals wounds, poison, disease, etc. What happens when they land a 500 dmg hit on you? Do you just meditate in the middle of it? No, because you CAN'T. Power boost does nothing they incap you then a fraction of a second later they DB unless you are mashing the keyboard.




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Daishidemon
Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:08 pm
#34

How can one solo elders without atleast medic? What happens when you get 2000 points worth of bleeds stacked on you? I think you're full of it.



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APEist_theReb
Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:05 pm
#35


hey kozak u may just be the "coolest" person ive ever met.


wow it must make u feel badass to call someone a noob, and diss them over a topic like killing a ns elder is swg lol.


btw i dont believe it. what u said that is.


but yea the guy saying you need at least 2-0-0-0 medic isnt completely right either. ive taken several with just 1-0-0-0. i know i would be much more succesful (lol even tho i havnt died once in a 1 on 1 with elder yet, but still it would be easier) fighting them if i could cure the bleeds but yea its definitly possible without first aid.

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KozakMamalyga
Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:44 pm
#36







">>You insult people then make yourself look like a fool. TKA heals wounds, poison, disease, etc. What happens when they land a 500 dmg hit on you? Do you just meditate in the middle of it? No, because you CAN'T. Power boost does nothing they incap you then a fraction of a second later they DB unless you are mashing the keyboard."


I don't insult people. If you don't know how to dosomething it means you have a lot to learn. And there is nothing wrong to be a noob. Everybody was. Butthere is something wrong not to be noob and don't be able or want to learn.If it is yourcase I surrender.


You don't believe me that I can do it without having novice medic? It is your problem I don't care. It is possible. I was doing it every day until the new patch. I was doing it before NS got their force power back. I was doing it after. It really became more difficult. I could not kill 6 protectors at once no more. But even elder is not difficult to kill one on one. In the last 3 monthes killing nightsisters I remember dying only oncewhith 'help' of another 2 players who messed in my battle and brought another set of npcs.


And even now when my template is broken by several mostly uselessFS branchesI can do it. Ieven suggest you to makechar on Ahazi and seeit byyour eyes. If it would help you to learn that there is always something to learn I would not mind to spend my time on this.


About looking like afool. "Land a 500 dmg hit on you?"


What whould you do with your medic when get this hit at mind pool? After the buf and boost my primary stats are about 4.2k without any food. I never told that you can boost during the battle but you missing the point.The boost stay for a while.This is enough to kill protector.And even it stays less than I need to kill elderit helps a lot. Why?


Becauseyou can substract this time from the time you should worry about health and action.


500 dmg? I don't remember numbers but I don't take so much damage. Because normally I wear the best armor I can get. The only problem might be choking. But fighting does not mean only "mashing the keyboard" which I afraid isstyle who "don't believe".


You always shouldcarry food, drinks and drugs anduse them properly.


I don't want to tell that medic is useless. It is great skill in the group where you can change who takes damage and quit from the battle for a while.


But when you solo situation is different. It does not mean you can't solo nightsisters having medic. Everething depends on your skills and how you use them. But it does not help you.Mindpool is the most difficult to boost and recover. And if you have to heal yourself it means you hurt yourselfand you don't do moveswhich could be usedin other ways. So if you don't have to, you can manage combat better. You make more damage and you receive less.


Anyway I did not mean to insult anybody and would not beinsulted myself in this case.


What can insult is an ignorance.


Best regards,


Mish (Ahazi)

Message Edited by KozakMamalyga on 09-10-2004 08:58 PM

Xear
Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:33 am
#37

If the not enough SP was directed towards my Master TKA/Fencer/Swords question...That is false. I had all 3 masterd on TC earlier and was messing around with it..Has anybody tried this in the past? Is it a waste to get masters for the others or should I just go up the defenses?



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Feyne
Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:22 am
#38

I was playign around on TC-Bria yesterday and stubled on the following template which i thought rocked:


Master Swordsman

Master Brawler

Fencer 0440

TK 4000

Pistoleer 0040


Loads of defenses! (esp against dizzy and KD). It also leaves some points left over for use in the FS melee branches if you go that way.


One question i have though. This looks like a really good PvP template but i am 90% PvE. Is it still worth going for this tempate or can some suggest a better one?



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TreindTyde
Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:35 am
#39






Xear wrote:

If the not enough SP was directed towards my Master TKA/Fencer/Swords question...That is false. I had all 3 masterd on TC earlier and was messing around with it..Has anybody tried this in the past? Is it a waste to get masters for the others or should I just go up the defenses?






*shakes head* You are right, 92+77+77=246. I thought it was like 252, my mistake. Anyways, you probably would want master brawler for swordsman, and if you are keeping one for defenses, I'd go with fencer because it has more state and a little more melee/ranged if I remember correctly, maybe just more ranged.



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