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Thread: If you could make one change to swordsman, what would it be?

Bkiddin
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:00 pm
#27






Vurtorax wrote:





Dark-Adept wrote:

Dual Wielding

Able to use a lightsaber (There are organizations that build and use Lightsabers and they aren't Jedi)

or for something more realistic, another katana type sword or some cool clothing.







Are you kidding? You can't dual wield 2 HANDED weapons silly





huh? real lightsabers? in real life???



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JediQuic
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:12 pm
#28

If you could make one change to swordsman, what would it be?


Just one? no....i have many


AP3 Ex.Hack

AP3 Master certed Sword.....Big, Slow, andPowerfull

Sweep 1 and 2 changed to something more usefull...Think stun, intimidate, blind.....ect

Counter attack actualy doing a counter attack



Sword Being the prime Offensive Front line fighters we should be...I don't have any problem with riffle and commando putting the smack down fromthier respective distances, but Swordsmen should be the real "juggernauts" on the battlefield.
Vurtorax
Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:04 pm
#29



Bkiddin wrote:


Vurtorax wrote:


Dark-Adept wrote:
Dual Wielding
Able to use a lightsaber (There are organizations that build and use Lightsabers and they aren't Jedi)
or for something more realistic, another katana type sword or some cool clothing.





Are you kidding? You can't dual wield 2 HANDED weapons silly


huh? real lightsabers? in real life???





What the? I didn't say anything about lightsabers....just stop while you're ahead man, seriously




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Bkiddin
Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:40 pm
#30

no not what u said what that other guy said



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gaarawarr
Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:52 am
#31






KreyMerr wrote:


because it is unbalanced. Im saying either add more AP3 weapons (first choice) or level the playing field. It is not overpowered in every instance no, but there are times when the AP3 makes it the single best choice in the game, and that is not balance.





at times the T21 is the best option, at other times a powerhammer is the best. it all depends on what your fighting. a TKM couldn't even scratch an elder, does that mean TKM's should get an AP2 vk that does stun damage? no profession is effective against evreything, even T21's are totally useless against alot of high end mobs. if the T21 did a less resisted type of damage then i might agree with you but with energy only being topped by kinetic i have to think you just resent rifleman for some reason.


they should just give all professions AP3, that would be balance right?



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Dark-Adept
Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:33 am
#32

Dual Wielding

Able to use a lightsaber (There are organizations thatbuild and use Lightsabers and theyaren't Jedi)

or for something more realistic, another katana type sword or some cool clothing.
Marssk
Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:30 pm
#33






gaarawarr wrote:






KreyMerr wrote:


because it is unbalanced. Im saying either add more AP3 weapons (first choice) or level the playing field. It is not overpowered in every instance no, but there are times when the AP3 makes it the single best choice in the game, and that is not balance.





at times the T21 is the best option, at other times a powerhammer is the best. it all depends on what your fighting. a TKM couldn't even scratch an elder, does that mean TKM's should get an AP2 vk that does stun damage? no profession is effective against evreything, even T21's are totally useless against alot of high end mobs. if the T21 did a less resisted type of damage then i might agree with you but with energy only being topped by kinetic i have to think you just resent rifleman for some reason.


they should just give all professions AP3, that would be balance right?







no, that would take away the point of having different profs, fencers dont do much damage (without a stun bat) but they state the sh!t out of ya, swordsman isnt fast but it has a big ass mofo hammer, rifleman has an armor piercing rifle, etc



but i still think we should get +10 speed so its not so expensive to speed cap (rifleman can do it for about 10 mill, swords is what, 30mil?)




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clowdvailo
Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:22 am
#34

if i could change something about swordsman i would change 2 things.


1. better defenses


2. that all skill mod attachments worked.... i have a AA +25 to 2 hand counterattack. and some other really good ones, but they are all broken... fix this or take the broken ones out of the game



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bdwsrkob
Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:25 am
#35

I don't think everyone understands a swordsman's position. Swordsmen don't apply states, they deal damage, TKMs apply states. Wearen't fancy defenders, if you want that do Fencer. We do need AP3, the way I see it we are the rifle equivelent in melee. A master certed weapon would work nicely, and make it AP3. But by doing that it may be a lower damage weapon, we can't have our cake and eat it too. You must remember balance, Swordsman cannot become the "best" profession, otherwise thats the only thing people would want to be. So we need a boost in overall damage, and I think nothing added in defenses or state application (again these are for other profs to do).


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Marssk
Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:25 am
#36






bdwsrkob wrote:

I don't think everyone understands a swordsman's position. Swordsmen don't apply states, they deal damage, TKMs apply states. Wearen't fancy defenders, if you want that do Fencer. We do need AP3, the way I see it we are the rifle equivelent in melee. A master certed weapon would work nicely, and make it AP3. But by doing that it may be a lower damage weapon, we can't have our cake and eat it too. You must remember balance, Swordsman cannot become the "best" profession, otherwise thats the only thing people would want to be. So we need a boost in overall damage, and I think nothing added in defenses or state application (again these are for other profs to do).


Lofenagado - TKM, Master Swords
-AoWL - Army of Wookiee Liberation






/agree



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APEist_theReb
Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:21 pm
#37






ZandorFelok wrote:






KreyMerr wrote:





gaarawarr wrote:



higher speed mods. i'm using speed PUP's on a speed sliced hammer at master and still not close to the cap


why should the T21 lose AP3? it's the only reason to go rifleman. i was a master rifleman twice (forgot why i dropped it, regrinded then remembered) and the T21 is by no means overpowered right now. if anything i say give the T21 50-60 more damage.






because it is unbalanced. Im saying either add more AP3 weapons (first choice) or level the playing field. It is not overpowered in every instance no, but there are times when the AP3 makes it the single best choice in the game, and that is not balance.






wooo woooo wooo


level the playing field is all wrong, its not about being level from profession to profession, its about how each profesion has its strengths and weakness's and when its one on one, you have to exploit your strenghts and their weakness's. Leveling the playing field would mean we all run around with AP3 stun weapons. Utter stupidity and just an insane sight.... almost no point to being a master of anything cause somebody else can do just as good as you no matter their profession. The failure is on SOE's part at not keeping professions linked to each other, and allowing people to go out and do stuff like solo Elders or Krayts.


Commando, Rifleman and Swordsman.... those are the only professions I want to see with AP3 weapons, no other professions status should allow them to have AP3. But I do agree, a master certified sword or hammer or w/e that is AP3, kin or blast... doesn't matter.


Message Edited by ZandorFelok on 11-09-2004 02:18 PM





This guy has some sence, good response.



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Locke94
Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:40 am
#38

I wish the cleaver was a strong master cert weapon for swordsman, it is the best looking swordsman weapon.
Drachinthor
Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:09 pm
#39

Make the cleaver AP3 and give it cold damage or heat damage.

It's stats are roughly in line with AP3 and giving it a rare damage type would allow it to fill a unique niche. Plus it looks damn cool.



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