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A stun PH, that'd be evil, AP2...Yeowch.

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Keuller wrote:

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Joesf33 wrote:

I love Swordsman but I think an AP3 Power hammer is a bit much. Besides its a blunt object.

I think if\when they get rid of Mitigation our PvP abilities will be greatly increased. Imagine the damage on a KDed target without mitigation. Almost certian death.

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It's a blunt object that's vibrating so fast you can't see it. It is a POWER hammer, like a jack hammer, ever seen those tear into concrete, it's not pretty. As for being a bit much...It's no more outrageous than a weapon that can hit out to 64m and will break 575dmg with a good slice, we at least have to get up close and personal to start mashing heads in.

Edit: Should also mention that a rifleman's best special has a 5x dmg multiplier whereas out best is 4x.

Message Edited by Keuller on 08-27-2004 02:54 AM

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A jackhammer has a point on the end, like a chissle(sp?). Thats how is breaks up concrete. If you were to put a huge flat piece of metal on the end it would become worthless for breaking up concrete and more for packing dirt. Thats more like a power hammer.

But either way. I do agree with the 4x multiplier for hit3. Should be more like 5x.

Personaly I hate seeing everyone using the same weapons in each profession. And think each weapon needs it advantages. Right now the PH is the weapon of choice and AP3 would only further its exclusive use.

Joesf-WOOK-

Looterous Masterous Tankobigness

Fear the DOME of Dominance!

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Jedi69cathat wrote:

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Nealoc187 wrote:

anyone who pvps nowadays knows that stun damage is a joke with psg and stun armor... the fact that people are begging for stun weapons for swordsman just goes to show how little those folks know about pvping.

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humm I take that as a off hand jab at me sir and I can tell you that my wanting a stun weapon was NOT just for pvp.

Bloodfin has more pvp then you have ever seen sir and not everone uses PSGs plus PSGs still bug out somtimes and don't work.

Ether way a stun PH type weapon would own joz even with 39% stun armor and PSG.

I would love to prove it to you someday.

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it wasn't offhanded at all, i just didn't care to press the back button and see what the name of the started of the thread was.

you state in your original post a non armor piercing stun weapon... this would be equivalent to a stun baton. against psg and stun composite a stun baton, even a 500 dmg stun baton such as mine, does jack squat... aka nothing. anyone who pvp's without a psg and stun composite is a pvp noob, or else they just don't care about dying.

lets say you hit for 1000 damage in pvp with an AP0 stun weapon. that damage immediately becomes 500dmg from ap1 vs ap0. then it becomes about 300dmg from the approximately 40% reduction from stun armor. then it becomes 150dmg because of the stun psgs AR1 rating. then it becomes 80dmg from the approximately 45% stun rating on the psg... and that was with 1000 damage hit bud. a more typical hit of 500dmg in pvp would do a whopping 40 damage... most impressive.

like i said before if you aren't wearing psg and stun composite in pvp you are just plain unprepared and going to die very quickly.

in pve i suppose this could be useful, however i can't think of any mobs that are worth killing that have a significantly lower stun resist than any of the "normal" damage type resists, but maybe there are some and maybe this would be great for whatever those pve creatures are.

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Nealoc187 wrote:

anyone who pvps nowadays knows that stun damage is a joke with psg and stun armor... the fact that people are begging for stun weapons for swordsman just goes to show how little those folks know about pvping.

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humm I take that as a off hand jab at me sir and I can tell you that my wanting a stun weapon was NOT just for pvp.

Bloodfin has more pvp then you have ever seen sir and not everone uses PSGs plus PSGs still bug out somtimes and don't work.

Ether way a stun PH type weapon would own joz even with 39% stun armor and PSG.

I would love to prove it to you someday.