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Thread: Swordsman Tank?
APEist_theReb wrote:
KJFett wrote:
Reich wrote:
I am
TK Master
Swords Master
Brawler Master
Fencer 3440
I can solo the GEO cave no problem with buffs and good armor
A Master Smuggler, Master Swordsman, Master Brawler can solo the Geo caves with no problem with buffs and good armor. (without going FD)
The one I like is
Master Swordsman
Fencer 4440
TKA 4000
Pistoleer 0040
Smuggler 0010
You get the damage from Swords (still cap speed with a scythe or a fast slice PH)
high +90s on melee and ranged defense
+90 def vs Blind and Stun
+100 def vs Dizzy
+125 def vs KD
+40 def vs Int
+110 counter attack while using 2H
+100 dodge with the 1H and pistols
(if you are laying on your back, you can't do damage)
(if you are stunned, blind and intimidated, you might as well be laying on your back)
FD when the fight goes bad,Force of Will to get up when FD is too slow and Power Boost to get Ham bars up before the fight.
weapon damage types include:
Kenetic ranged and melee
Energy ranged
Blast melee
Acid ranged
Stun ranged and melee
Heat ranged
and Meditate to heal the poison, disease and wnds at the end of the fight.
not completely true, but yea i get what ya mean. o and defense vs intimidate doesnt work.
im going master swords, master brawler, doc 4-0-3-0. that will keep me unintimidated/unstated.
also vs dot whores they will be nothing to me. if they land a particularly nasty potency dot, ill warcry them and then heal.
add in some unarmed accuracy tapes (fairly common and inexspensive) and some +23 to all ranges vibro knucks and you can land stun and blind at the begining of the fight with ease.
general fight plan:
1. scythe or ph equipped (depending on enemy)
2. intimidate
3. vibroknucks and blind/stun them
4. back to scythe or ph
5. dizzy/kd (through hit 3 and either lunge 1 or 2) or just regular kd if they are too hard to dizzy
6. head hits
7. repeat steps 1-6 untill deaded
note: an unintimidated/unstated swordsman can do vicious damage even when your opponent isnt on the ground.
Doc is nice and all, but your slowing your DPS by having to heal those states. Even if you warcry, it gives them a chance to get their thoughts together. That healing is also using up mind...something we don't have alot of. True, it helps with DOTs, but a smart PVPer will get good Disease/Poison Buffs before going out to fight. Also, changing weapons in a fight means you have to wait up to 5 seconds for them to equip and be usable. Thats alot of time to be standing around. The def states are a much better way to keep dealing dmg out nonstop. Nonstop dmg from a sword to the head is far better. Ohh..and you can't heal those states on your back.
Your template Vs mine would look like this. You trying to stick states on me, but they seldom stick, and when they do, they are gone in mere seconds, and you would never get a Dizzy/KD in..not even worth trying. Meanwhile I am hitting you..putting those states on you, that you are then healing, hitting me for less dmg, while you heal those states...and dont bother trying to heal your ham bar, Im hitting mind...which ou can't heal 
Who willwear down sooner? Me just hitting at 1 per sec or you juggling healing and hitting all together.
I spent my time as a Master2H/Master Doc, and it is a good template. I didn't do nearly as well then as I do now tho.
ewano wrote:
when i duel or fight another player and i see they healing all the states..i simply keep spamming states intim blind dizzy poison disease all that healing cost mind in the meanwhile i attack that same mind.....they have to have a very strong mind to keep it up then
APEist_theReb wrote:
ewano wrote:
when i duel or fight another player and i see they healing all the states..i simply keep spamming states intim blind dizzy poison disease all that healing cost mind in the meanwhile i attack that same mind.....they have to have a very strong mind to keep it up then
again, i havnt played the template yet, but lets look at this...
you are taking time to state a person, dot a person, and attack. the moves you use to dot me and state me take a LITTLE bit of mind.
i would be taking time to heal my states and dots, and the rest of my time would go to attack. the heales i use take NO mind.
you keep having to state me and dot me so you dont get to do many dmg attacks.
i keep having to heal the states and dots so i dont get to do many dmg attacks.
the thing is, you still have a slight advantage. for every state you land, i can heal with one state pack. for every dot you land, it might take 2 or 3 if the potency is high.
you know what happens then? since you dotted me first i slap a 410 mind fire on you (i dont dot unless dot'd first).
since you cant heal, i win, or you swim. both a victory in my eyes.
yea i take out my gun the size off a tank .......doh!!!
try it a player who keeps healing uses mind cant put a state on me cant atackt me cant do high dmg cuz he's blinded intimidated, poisond diseased what ever. im talking from own expierence duels wich seemd having no end ended very fast this way, just imagine, u use mind to heal u cant attack me and il do a mind attacks on u. the only way of turning the battle is byturning of the macro, in that case i got what i want an enemy with states
KJFett wrote:
Reich wrote:
I am
TK Master
Swords Master
Brawler Master
Fencer 3440
I can solo the GEO cave no problem with buffs and good armor
A Master Smuggler, Master Swordsman, Master Brawler can solo the Geo caves with no problem with buffs and good armor. (without going FD)
The one I like is
Master Swordsman
Fencer 4440
TKA 4000
Pistoleer 0040
Smuggler 0010
You get the damage from Swords (still cap speed with a scythe or a fast slice PH)
high +90s on melee and ranged defense
+90 def vs Blind and Stun
+100 def vs Dizzy
+125 def vs KD
+40 def vs Int
+110 counter attack while using 2H
+100 dodge with the 1H and pistols
(if you are laying on your back, you can't do damage)
(if you are stunned, blind and intimidated, you might as well be laying on your back)
FD when the fight goes bad,Force of Will to get up when FD is too slow and Power Boost to get Ham bars up before the fight.
weapon damage types include:
Kenetic ranged and melee
Energy ranged
Blast melee
Acid ranged
Stun ranged and melee
Heat ranged
and Meditate to heal the poison, disease and wnds at the end of the fight.
not completely true, but yea i get what ya mean. o and defense vs intimidate doesnt work.
im going master swords, master brawler, doc 4-0-3-0. that will keep me unintimidated/unstated.
also vs dot whores they will be nothing to me. if they land a particularly nasty potency dot, ill warcry them and then heal.
add in some unarmed accuracy tapes (fairly common and inexspensive) and some +23 to all ranges vibro knucks and you can land stun and blind at the begining of the fight with ease.
general fight plan:
1. scythe or ph equipped (depending on enemy)
2. intimidate
3. vibroknucks and blind/stun them
4. back to scythe or ph
5. dizzy/kd (through hit 3 and either lunge 1 or 2) or just regular kd if they are too hard to dizzy
6. head hits
7. repeat steps 1-6 untill deaded
note: an unintimidated/unstated swordsman can do vicious damage even when your opponent isnt on the ground.
-Freedman- wrote:
So with the build that I chose, you guys thing I will be very good in PvP?
template is important, but someone who just pciks up a template and thinks they are uber will go no where. it depnds on you knowledge and skill in pvp.
ewano wrote:
APEist_theReb wrote:
ewano wrote:
when i duel or fight another player and i see they healing all the states..i simply keep spamming states intim blind dizzy poison disease all that healing cost mind in the meanwhile i attack that same mind.....they have to have a very strong mind to keep it up then
again, i havnt played the template yet, but lets look at this...
you are taking time to state a person, dot a person, and attack. the moves you use to dot me and state me take a LITTLE bit of mind.
i would be taking time to heal my states and dots, and the rest of my time would go to attack. the heales i use take NO mind.
you keep having to state me and dot me so you dont get to do many dmg attacks.
i keep having to heal the states and dots so i dont get to do many dmg attacks.
the thing is, you still have a slight advantage. for every state you land, i can heal with one state pack. for every dot you land, it might take 2 or 3 if the potency is high.
you know what happens then? since you dotted me first i slap a 410 mind fire on you (i dont dot unless dot'd first).
since you cant heal, i win, or you swim. both a victory in my eyes.
yea i take out my gun the size off a tank .......doh!!!
try it a player who keeps healing uses mind cant put a state on me cant atackt me cant do high dmg cuz he's blinded intimidated, poisond diseased what ever. im talking from own expierence duels wich seemd having no end ended very fast this way, just imagine, u use mind to heal u cant attack me and il do a mind attacks on u. the only way of turning the battle is byturning of the macro, in that case i got what i want an enemy with states
again, this is what im afraid of. i guess i will see what happens.
Ya, I totally understand that...but Ive been in PvP for a long time just never used Swordsman, refer to my previous build
The thing is that a template starts you off in PvP, so I wanna make sure its a good one.
-Freedman- wrote:
template is important, but someone who just pciks up a template and thinks they are uber will go no where. it depnds on you knowledge and skill in pvp.
Ya, I totally understand that...but Ive been in PvP for a long time just never used Swordsman, refer to my previous build
The thing is that a template starts you off in PvP, so I wanna make sure its a good one.
very true.
swordsman may take a day or two to get used to from what ive heard, but its very rewarding.