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Thread: To all the Whiners

Keelala
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:37 pm
#14






Harmonius wrote:
I wish the whiners would just shut up. Damn, I don't usually get mad, but all this crying makes swordsmen look like little babies. Forget about your damned bleeds. We don't suck, we can still solo almost everything out there, and we were already bad at PvP, so we haven't lost anything there either.

Ugh, its a game. If you don't enjoy it, do something else.





no no we already didnt' suck at PvP. Our counerattacks are sick i never got hit very often or only offence was mind bleeds and mind attack for PvP now that is gone i have been master two hand since the begining not a holo proffession and when i do unlock i was going to go back but since the bleeds are gone heavy sword is nothing without it like i said cant' fight against 80% kinetic armor...and the hammers well we all know about them :/



Robaroo

Puppet of the Emperor
Built for comfort not for speed
"imPVP" Its Us Imperial Guild




Harmonius
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:52 pm
#15


Keelala wrote:


Harmonius wrote:
I wish the whiners would just shut up. Damn, I don't usually get mad, but all this crying makes swordsmen look like little babies. Forget about your damned bleeds. We don't suck, we can still solo almost everything out there, and we were already bad at PvP, so we haven't lost anything there either.

Ugh, its a game. If you don't enjoy it, do something else.


no no we already didnt' suck at PvP. Our counerattacks are sick i never got hit very often or only offence was mind bleeds and mind attack for PvP now that is gone i have been master two hand since the begining not a holo proffession and when i do unlock i was going to go back but since the bleeds are gone heavy sword is nothing without it like i said cant' fight against 80% kinetic armor...and the hammers well we all know about them :/




How often have you won against a combat medic, commando, TKA, or a rifleman?

We were not a great PvP class. We could pull off a win on rare occasions if we got lucky, but we were never gifted in the PvP area like other classes were.



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yosick
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:00 pm
#16






Awik wrote:

Leave the proffession....really. Those that was Swordsmen from the beginning are loyal to it. I bet u whiners are the ones that found this proffession from Holo grinding.....


To the loyal Swordsmen.....our class will be rare again which makes us a better class without all this n00b wanna be.






i am loyal to the profession, i consider myself a hardcore swordsman, but ya i can still whine about this silent nerf. not the fact that it affects us so greatly, but the fact that i had no idea that it was coming.


whether or not im loyal to the Swordsman proffession is of not the issue.


the whole suprise of the nerf is what im urked about.



Yosick Bissli - Rodian Jedi
shutout
Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:55 pm
#17






Awik wrote:

Leave the proffession....really. Those that was Swordsmen from the beginning are loyal to it. I bet u whiners are the ones that found this proffession from Holo grinding.....


To the loyal Swordsmen.....our class will be rare again which makes us a better class without all this n00b wanna be.







this is the dumbest statement that ihave heard. yes, i'm a loyal swordsman. i like theprofession. at first, i picked it up because i wanted a different damage type (blast), but after working my way up the skill trees, i found that i really liked the profession. does that mean i have to sit back and watch the devs destroy my profession? no. the same thing with my commando. back in the day, commandos were horrible. we complained, we petitioned, we screamed. what did we get? we got fixed. then, the devs added a melee damage modifyer to commandos. we did the same thing again. what happened? we got fixed. sitting there and taking it is no way to get things done. a squeaky oil needs a greasin'. i bet if the squad leaders were to raise their voices, they might be able to get their profession fixed as well. there is nothing wrong with having pride in your profession. in wanting it to work properly. in wanting it to be at least on par with other similar professions.


and you should be happy that there are so many swordsman. as TH stated in the pikeman 10 answers, the most populated professions get the most attention. more swordsman threatening to leave the game because of this results in more money lost to SOE. much more so than say the 10 pikemen who would do the same.


if you don't like hearing swordsman complain about the issues they have, on a board that is specific to harbor such discussions, then maybe you should leave the boards. do i expect you to do this? no, just like you shouldn't expect us to drop this profession.




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Awik
Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:35 pm
#18

The bleed change was made for the better. The start of a combat revamp. Have u gotten hit by a rifleman's mindshot1 and 2 while kiting u with headshot3? The bleed was nerfed to prevent things like this. We can take them out even before the mind starts bleeding if we get close. And all this people complaining about how bad our bleeds are. Only time i use bleed on PvP is when theres a bunch of IMPS against me and i apply mindhit2 on each one so my teammates can kill them after i die. NO ONE should mind bleed someone with 300-750mind bleed then burstrun away and come back to finish the job.



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TheVeginator
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:27 pm
#19

The bleed was swordsmans most powerful tool in PVP. It was what allowed us to go toe to toe with the TK's and Fencers of SWG. You wouldnt believe how often I would take out a Master TK/Master Fencer/Master Brawler with my Master Doc/Master Swordsman combo and get tells afterwards like "How the hell did you do that!?!" Contrary to popular belief, before this nerf a Swordsman who knew how to work his advantages and play the fight into his hands could beat the flavor of the month classes. After this nerf, things get a little unbalanced against us. Before we had the bleed to tick away at people while we were dizzied/kd'ed. Now the ham cost of the bleed doesnt even justify the damage from the dot. You can say our power hammers are real powerful, but have you tried seeing how they fair against a TK or Fencer? Sure they do decent damage, but not nearly enough. Like it or not, Swordsman is now a broken profession. I would really like for them to fix our bleeds, or remove them and compensate us with something worthwhile.


Does this mean I am gonna quit swordsman for TK or Rifleman or whatever the 'in' class is now? Hell no! I like swordsman, and I want to stay swordsman. Fix us! Give us our bleeds back! Or something equally powerful.




The-Veginator, Bria
Master Medic, Master Doctor, Master Swordsman, Ex-Master Combat Medic
DarthFuse
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:57 pm
#20



TheVeginator wrote:

The bleed was swordsmans most powerful tool in PVP. It was what allowed us to go toe to toe with the TK's and Fencers of SWG. You wouldnt believe how often I would take out a Master TK/Master Fencer/Master Brawler with my Master Doc/Master Swordsman combo and get tells afterwards like "How the hell did you do that!?!" Contrary to popular belief, before this nerf a Swordsman who knew how to work his advantages and play the fight into his hands could beat the flavor of the month classes. After this nerf, things get a little unbalanced against us. Before we had the bleed to tick away at people while we were dizzied/kd'ed. Now the ham cost of the bleed doesnt even justify the damage from the dot. You can say our power hammers are real powerful, but have you tried seeing how they fair against a TK or Fencer? Sure they do decent damage, but not nearly enough. Like it or not, Swordsman is now a broken profession. I would really like for them to fix our bleeds, or remove them and compensate us with something worthwhile.

Does this mean I am gonna quit swordsman for TK or Rifleman or whatever the 'in' class is now? Hell no! I like swordsman, and I want to stay swordsman. Fix us! Give us our bleeds back! Or something equally powerful.






AMEN!!!!
CorporateDan
Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:54 am
#21

I never used bleeds in PvP... They were only useful against specific templates in one on one, which I didn't do much. So pretty much I would have to bleed the person, and put up my defenses and run. In a big PvP battle that really didn't work. So in most cases I would warcry 2 then pound on their heads till dead if they were ranged. If they were melee I would warcry and run away shooting headshot 3 with my ion rifle. So yeah that is pretty much my strategy mixed with some lunge 2s, SoBs, furry shots, startle shots, 2 handed hit 3, back flips... Yeah so bleed nerfs do nothing to me. Now accuracy and low defenses are the things I don't like.



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Cakins7005
Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:27 am
#22

Stop complaining about whiners you moron! If we didn't whine, the devs would think there are no problems and nothing would ever get fixed. Are you really a Swordsman or a TKA in disguise?



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Keelala
Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:48 am
#23






Harmonius wrote:




Keelala wrote:





Harmonius wrote:
I wish the whiners would just shut up. Damn, I don't usually get mad, but all this crying makes swordsmen look like little babies. Forget about your damned bleeds. We don't suck, we can still solo almost everything out there, and we were already bad at PvP, so we haven't lost anything there either.

Ugh, its a game. If you don't enjoy it, do something else.





no no we already didnt' suck at PvP. Our counerattacks are sick i never got hit very often or only offence was mind bleeds and mind attack for PvP now that is gone i have been master two hand since the begining not a holo proffession and when i do unlock i was going to go back but since the bleeds are gone heavy sword is nothing without it like i said cant' fight against 80% kinetic armor...and the hammers well we all know about them :/






How often have you won against a combat medic, commando, TKA, or a rifleman?

We were not a great PvP class. We could pull off a win on rare occasions if we got lucky, but we were never gifted in the PvP area like other classes were.





hehe many many times on all of them classes double mind bleeds and mind attack every second . I beat most people one on one tka well they get me but so does most classes. /shrug all i know is that with no double mind bleeds we are toast in PvP.



Robaroo

Puppet of the Emperor
Built for comfort not for speed
"imPVP" Its Us Imperial Guild




Keelala
Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:00 am
#24






TheVeginator wrote:

The bleed was swordsmans most powerful tool in PVP. It was what allowed us to go toe to toe with the TK's and Fencers of SWG. You wouldnt believe how often I would take out a Master TK/Master Fencer/Master Brawler with my Master Doc/Master Swordsman combo and get tells afterwards like "How the hell did you do that!?!" Contrary to popular belief, before this nerf a Swordsman who knew how to work his advantages and play the fight into his hands could beat the flavor of the month classes. After this nerf, things get a little unbalanced against us. Before we had the bleed to tick away at people while we were dizzied/kd'ed. Now the ham cost of the bleed doesnt even justify the damage from the dot. You can say our power hammers are real powerful, but have you tried seeing how they fair against a TK or Fencer? Sure they do decent damage, but not nearly enough. Like it or not, Swordsman is now a broken profession. I would really like for them to fix our bleeds, or remove them and compensate us with something worthwhile.


Does this mean I am gonna quit swordsman for TK or Rifleman or whatever the 'in' class is now? Hell no! I like swordsman, and I want to stay swordsman. Fix us! Give us our bleeds back! Or something equally powerful.








/cheer



Finally someone that agree's with me . After thinking for a bit after i unlocki probably will go back to two hand istill like the mind attacks but the armor on our server is really not the best route with the soon to be def nerfing. I was a master two hand and 4/1/1/4 tka just for hte dizzy kd and med and def.




Robaroo

Puppet of the Emperor
Built for comfort not for speed
"imPVP" Its Us Imperial Guild




Jaxx
Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:56 am
#25

Starting to sound like the jedi's.... :/



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Gimperial666
Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:32 pm
#26

Well ive done my share of whining dont get me wrong... but im also one of the O.G. swordsmen and will stay one as long as i play...

So if I whine from time to time... ive got a right to. My class i based my character around is getting the short end of the stick...we all are.

BUT
im tough enough to stick with it... if they dont revamp us however... I think im mowing on, not class-wise....
Game-wise.
Im getting sick of half-ass over priced games that arn't more than betas. And the philosophy of "well just fix it later..who cares if they pay or not... some other idiot will sighn up after that guy quits.. so lets just skimp on content and charge em for it while they deal with our nearsidedness..."

IS THE REAL THING TO WHINE ABOUT... WHO CARES ABOUT THE NERF.. its the ethics behind it that bothers me.



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