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Thread: Swordsman so shafted its silly! please read

Shimond
Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:45 am
#14

You can't get double bled in the same pool with the same attack, so I don't understand what you mean when you're talking entry level bleeds.


If you mean someone can quickly whip out a pistol to health bleed me, whip out a carbine to action bleed me, and whip out a rifle to mind bleed me then yes it will take me at least 3 first aid attempts to cure it.


But I've never seen that happen.And I could still likely cure all those bleeds before receiving a tick in any.


If you mean I first aid and he does the same bleed attack again, yes, I'll have to first aid again. But there is also a much longer than the 4 seconds between heals lag before the first tick of a bleed.


I'm done with this issue. I enjoy the class and do quite well with it. I wish others could and I think others can without getting the dev team to step in and change things.


Does that mean we don't need improvements? No it doesn't at all, I agree the majority of our elite styles do the SAME effect which needs to be changed. But I do believe some of the complaints in other areas are unjustified by my own experiences.


-Shi

Warenth
Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:12 am
#15

Its people like this that think stratagie is paper rock scissors.


Now, don't get me wrong, I know a million stratagies to paper rock scissors.


But, melee beat mage, mage beats archer. blah blah blah... is what I think he wants.


There is plenty of strats for melees.


I have no problem killing anyone in PvP. I fear only one class, and thats the combat medic... as their mind bleed will leave me dead, even after they are dead.


Master Brawler - KnockDown, one move, no combo.
Expert Sword Technique - Mind hit 2


Two swings from mind hit two kills just about anyone.
KnockDown - Last long enough to get two swings off.


LoS (Line of Sight) - Stand behing a wall, or jump into a starport hall way so you can close range, and limit the availabilty of directions they can run. They run away, you run away, forcing them to run foreward.


WARNING - You have to guess where the person really is, as they appear 15m or so behind their currently location. Burst run ahead of them, spamming your chosen attack, then when it goes off do what you need to and stay that distance.


Now, to claim we suck without Master Brawler... *ponders*
I suppose I could see that, as we can't hit most anything moving as our range is shorter then visable location.


I personally harrass anyone who stands still. Most likely its the people with AT STs and what not. As their balls seem to become so much heavier that they can't run. So I KD and MH2. AT STs stand stupified.


Hm... I can also see your point about our stats being to low. As health action and Mind are so vital, sence our HAM costs for special moves are so high. And you can only sacrafcie so much HA, to raise your M, before you start HAM killing yourself to death. And your mind is never high enough to live through Combat Medics or riflemen who are covert and suprise attack...




Anari
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Almost master Architect
Anyone need some dang candles


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Morath360
Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:31 am
#16

Im all for strategy, but Im also realistic. Im not some idiot that doesnt know when to take cover. My attacks were primarly mind2 followed by head 3 unless a crowd then it area3 followed by mind then head. I know when to run and I analyze my targets when I can. Usually it is tono avail. In any event, I will try again as I try to be open minded. If you are having success I wil try again.


Let me ask you this. What do you do when you get an imp or a reb camping picking you off when you do a mission? What is your strategy? Mine sadly is burst run back to anchorhead and hope I dont die. Sometimes as there are more houses I duck in but rarely are they dumb enough to follow. They just wait me out.




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TrekDude
Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:10 pm
#17

I want you all to go check out pikeman BEFORE you post stuuf liek this



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Warenth
Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:24 pm
#18

To be honest, when people sneak up on me while I'm doing missions... I usually don't notice... and die



Anari
Master ID

Almost master Architect
Anyone need some dang candles


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KendredTkm
Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:55 pm
#19

in the open you have about a 35% chance of beating a kiter terrain is your friend always rember that you are a melee you gotta play smart you make him play your game not the other way around and i might add houses/buildings are mad fun to pvp in what i do useally is if thier pets are after me give em two mind bleeds and let them beat on me while i round around in diffrent rooms picking off the players one by one walls are your friends they block gun fire some people say its cheating.... heh its not at all if we didnt have stuff to hide behind at all wed be owned 100% in our current state alot of times vs a kiter i start out with burst run lunge then use mind hit 2 and 1 2 always hits inless i lag and with my 1.9 sword alot of times i get the mh 1 off as well then its all overyou can sit down and youve won heh



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KendredTkm
Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:56 pm
#20

btw i pvp solo 90% of the time



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Machaon - Master ArmourSmith - Looking for a sea or two
iLiDaN
Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:04 pm
#21

Heavy Swordsman is useless..... its a reality, and we cant do nothing,....a master heavy swordsman can be defeated by a pistol IV believe me, i have see it.


We only can fight with other brawlers...and...if its a 1vs1 we cant too, why ? knockdowns, dizzys, stuns...


I dont know what is the pro of this profession.


I always wanted to be a heavy swordsman, but....every day i have less reasons to be one.


Expert Heavy Swordsman


soon carabiner

Fitzfield
Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:06 pm
#22

I feel all of you, we defently are being hurt by the DEV's, why make the most powerfull melee


fighter also the weakest.....???? I dueled a master BH the other day, he killed me with eyeshot


(go figure lol) but im only a novice swordsman and i took all but 1/8th of his action pool with


2 hand hit 2 (hehe) I cant get why people just run around and shoot enemies (easier, anyone)


thats not honorable combat, wefight our opponets(spelling sorry)face to face, grinning at


the promise of combat, not running and dumping like scared kids.


-Fitzfield- Novice Heavy Swordsman


-Ahazi

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