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Thread: Swordsman so shafted its silly the sequal

Gamesanator
Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:29 am
#14

IM AM SO SICK OF HEARING THAT IM SELF CENTERED THIS IS THE SWORDSMAN FORUM AND IM GOING TO TALK ABOUT SWORDSMAN ISSUES SO DEAL WITH IT OR GO TO YOUR OWN FORUM


There are no i repeat NO EXCUSES for our proffesion to still have an empty slot in our tree.

ALL WE'VE ASKED FOR FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS IS TO BE ABLE TO WEAR ARMOR, LOWER OUR HAM ,AND ATTACK WHILE RUNNING. THE DEVS HAVE FIXED THE OTHER PROFFESSION'S WHEN ASKED BY THE PLAYERS BUT WE ARE STILL IGNORED THATS BS. EVERY TIME A PATCH COMES OUT I GET EXCITED THINKING THEY MIGHT HAVE FIXED US AND ALL I SEE ARE UPGRADES TO OTHER PROFFESSIONS AND WE ARE LEFT IN THE COLD.

OUR WEAPONS BLOW, OUR POWER OUTPUT BLOWS, WE CANT WEAR ARMOR EFFECTIVELY , AND WE ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK'S OF SWG. I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO MY GUILD LEADER WHY I WANTED TO KEEP THIS PROFFESION THATS NOT COOL.

I see t21's and such that deal out ungodly amounts of damage and we are stuck with low damage weapons. And the powerhammer is an ugly peice of crap IM A SWORDSMAN NOT A HAMMERMAN LOL.

Swordsman was not ready at release and still isnt and thats bs.


Swordsman need speacial attention our class is not finished and that should be a top priority of the dev's. FINISH OUR CLASS heck they have stated they dont know what to do with swordsman PEOPLE STARS WARS IS BASED ON SWORDSMAN JEDI ARE SWORDSMAN we should be bad@ss mofo's period. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU LIKE THE MOVIES BECAUSE OF LASER RIFLES?


I complain alot but thats because i love this game lol

On a really good note i think our pvp problems have been worked on it seems that pvp is finally reaching a balance and im very happy with that and i give the devs a big big thx im sure we all do. Its nice to be able to actually fight and win in pvp good work devs.



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APEist_theReb
Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:41 pm
#15

same goes for fencers, but not to the same extent. they need some ap1 weapons, and thats mostly it, besides the other general melee problems that effect all of us melee.

and on posts when discussing melee problems i have posted several times that i think it goes pikeman/swordsman-fencer/tka. since swordsman and fencers are pretty much in the same boat, the pikemans boat has a little more water in it, and the tka's have a lot less.



APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

Falator
Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:33 pm
#16






Gamesanator wrote:
ALL WE'VE ASKED FOR FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS IS TO BE ABLE TO WEAR ARMOR, LOWER OUR HAM



I think the only solution is to those two problems is to become a doctor like most other people who have a melee profession.



Eune Masew
Omnipotent Jedis + laughable death penalties = "Star Wars Galaxies: Jedi Counterstirike"
DarkAngelus81
Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:12 am
#17

We can wear armor, I wear specific pieces fo Armor myself. Now personally I like the way my Class and Character runs, if you don't too bad.



Gamesman You are doing nothing, but whing and complaining. The Devs get their orders from their Dept Heads, not form us. They can only work on what they are told to work on. Just because we want we want we want, doesnt mean we are going to get right away.



Fencers and Pikemen are more screwed then we are. I know my friend is a fencer and i kick his sorry ass daily.



Now As for shooters, I still deal more damage then most shooters. I was with A Novice Bounty hunter his gurrat, and ym fencer friend kill things on Yavin 4, and with my @ handed sword I was sitll not even a Novice Swordsman yet and I was dealing mroe damage, living longer, and getting more XP then either one of them.


IE We killed a Giant Crystal Snake. I got 2700 xp the Fencer and Shooter with pet got a total fo 1000 split between the three.


Now I see alot fo you whing and complaining about the few bad things in our class, but do you bother to glance at the useful things. We do more Damage then most. Most classes need pets, I havent needed one at all. I killed 3 Dragonets earlier today by myself, granted I got incapped 2 times, but other then that it worked out good for me. And for those who complain that you dont hit on the run, thats bull**edit**. I was running from the Dragonnet, and I swung back and hit him while he couldnt keep up with em to get close enough to bite. Then he spit on me later, but I still hit him while running. It wasnt often, but it happened.


We have good things along with bad things just like the other classes do.



Now you complain that its a simple thing fo changing a MOd here, or a number there. It is NEVEr that simple with programming. I know I use to do programming. The minute you Change ANYTHING you have to run it several times because there is almost a 95% chance you will have to change something else. It happens almost all the time. It is never as simple as , well all you gotta do is add a line of code.



Then they here us complaining to want it NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW so they give it to us NOW. Then something goes wrong, and we blame them for sending it through with bugs. Did any fo you stop and think that they gave us what we wanted? The **edit** patch. WE WANTED IT NOW they gave it to us NOW. Well now we have to sit here in our beds and enjoy what they gave us. So yes Gamesman stop your whining because people like you cause us tog et bugged stuff, because instead of working on making it good, they work on making it fast.



In a programming office they a list of agendas, based on the hardest and more important ot the easiet, and elast important. PEople are assiged tasks based on what they can do, and thus a set up for every update. Once all the groups have finished their projects we have patch, but fi they are rushed because fo threats and complaints, and the Managers yelling at them tog et it otu sooner because we are complaining, this is what we get.


They will fix the problem just wait, and calm down. Nothing is done in one day. Nothing, not a thing.

APEist_theReb
Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:43 am
#18

we know all that you fruitbasket. most of us here have been supporting our fellow melee classes, maybe you should read some posts.

what level was your fencer friend??

my fencer friends say that they are pretty sorry until they get footwork 4. its like an unwritten rule with fencers to get footwork four before anything else, and all of them do it. they say their dps increases dramatically, and i believe them.

when i had when i had 9 skills in swordsman and they had four in fencer, they were dealin out ABSOLUTELY incredible damage. i would kill a female narg in 10 or so seconds, they were done with their in around 6 seconds. they say their happy with their ability to solo things, but their weak when in comes to pvp, they have a dizzy kd and we have mind bleeds.

with the current changes to pvp, it looks like we got the upper hand, with our mind bleeds and all.



APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

APEist_theReb
Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:38 am
#19

o and i forgot the most important part, were not complaining because we stink, were complaining because tka's and other professions are getting so much more attention then us, when we other melee are in such obviously worse shape, and have been patiently awaiting to be fixed. last patch tka got 200+ to damage, other melee got nothing. this patch tka get power boost fixed, and thier vibro knucklers boosted. we get nothing. and before even the first patch they were more powerful than us.



APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

Gamesanator
Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:00 am
#20

Dont get me wrong i do know that other proffs need work to but i care about my class right now allthough i dont know much about pikemen if its worse off than our proff then i definatley feel for you


I find that armor makes my stats go down quicker buts thats my opinion.


When i post it usually is complaining but i have no reason to post if im not because i can chat ingame no reason to do it here? I feel these forums are to help the dev's tweak the game so i post my complaints.


And if your a brawler of any kind and dont feel it needs tweaking across the board then you should look at marksman stats thats what i base my complaints off of they are much much more stronger than we are across the board and i think there needs to be a balance between the two. Like why do they have lower ham costs that doesnt even make sense is there a universal rule that because i use a sword im less healthy than they are things like that need to be looked at.


Anyway's peace people im just giving my two cents




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Gamesanator
Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:05 am
#21

And in the three months ive been playing they have done nothing to fix our class other proff's at least get small tweaks we get nothin


But again this patch has helped us out all brawlers included finally we got some notice and you know why? BECAUSE WE ALL COMPLAIN AND IF WE DONT COMPLAIN THEY WONT KNOW ANYTHINGS WRONG.




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Shimond
Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:19 am
#22

Have you been playing a swordsman at all the last three months?


We had dizzy added to our Area Attack 3 which before the posture change nerf made us gods in close combat.


We had our power hammers modified and refined over time, the ones built today are quite a bit more powerful and faster than the ones of old.


As of this patch we no longer have the 'draw' delay when we attack with our weapon, and our lunge actually hits for solid damage at 15m.


So I really take issue with your claim that swordsmen have gotten NOTHING since launch.


Even if it isn't as much as other professions.


-Shi

APEist_theReb
Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:31 am
#23

true shi.


but their are extremely obvious problems with melee that the devs have not payed enough attention too. instead of using their time and energy to fix the other professions that are already pretty well off in comparison to fencers/swordsman/pikeman they need to focus on us. we have much more serious problems and should be worked on first. now i dont know about the crafting and entertainer professons, but same goes with them, if their in the same state as us, only with their aspect of the game.


but what you said shi was absolutely true, no one can argue that.


on the area attack 3, i wish they gave us blind or a bleed (health, so we couldnt stack it with any other swordsman bleeds) and ignored the thirty second timer, but i guess their might of been similiar moves in other professions too.






APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

Shimond
Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:43 am
#24

To be quite honest there are so many bugs with this game I don't know if I was a Dev where I'd start.


Melee would probably be the last thing I'd work on too.


I mean it's a complete guess when I log in whether or not /guild chat will work for me. And recently the /group and even /tell methods of communicating don't always work.


These are things, in a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game, that should be working 100% of the time since day one. So I have a bit more patience when it comes to class balance and pvp knowing there are more serious issues out there.


-Shi

Xeonus
Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:35 am
#25

"The height of insanity is the belief that things will get better when nothing has changed"



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Randak2004
Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:02 pm
#26

yay,we get fixed AFTER all the other classes i cant wait......but when we get fixed,will any one still be playing?



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