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Thread: Former TKA Master here, and a new swordsman

BomsieBTC
Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:32 pm
#14






Aunna wrote:

and for the TKA that spams headhit...what r u doing while he does this? sittin there waitin around? get your 80% kinetic armor up....intimidate so that they do 50% less dmg, blind the mofo so he doesnt hit you...BLEED HIM...





I'm coming back to swordsman after about three or so months, so maybe I missed it, but when did we get a blind..?



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Young_Padawan
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:55 pm
#15

Cakins7005 is a huge whiner. Always has been, always will be. You know thoselittle girls who get pwned in PvP and then instead of doing what they need to do to get better they cry about it to anyone who will listen? Yeah, that's her. She probably sends hate /tells to anyone who takes her nub 4ss out, too.


Don't belive she's a whiner? Do a search forher posts. Whining about CMs. Whining about TKMs. Whining about her poor, weak, defenseless Swordsman class. Crying for nerfs. Disgusting. I know 2-year old little girls that cry less.


I mean, My God... she even has an actual "the Devs love the rebels more then the Empire" post. AAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Ok, ok, so she makes me laugh sometimes. She still s|_|cks. And before someone replies a tells me Cakins is a guy, prove it --her "I'm a crying sissy" postsindicate otherwise. Grown-ups don't start pointing fingers at others when things don't go thier way. They take a step back and determine what they, themselves, need to do to promote their own situation.


Get armor. Get buffs. Get a template. Grow up. No one wants to hear you whine anymore, sport.




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FtB
Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:30 am
#16

Sorry to rain on your parade, but don't rock for pve as much as we used to.

If you havent noticed, the bleed nerf removed like 90% of our attack power. Our ability to solo high-end content is now dramatically reduced. There is no way for us to get through AR and resists.

So DJM's I think are out of the question unless you have melee defense template and Rifleman.



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Cakins7005
Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:21 am
#17

Young padowan learner please let the adults talk. What you call whining, I call pointing out inequalities. Face it, TKA's, Riflemen, and Combat Medics are the most powerful classes in the game. I'm sorry that my whining means that these classes have to play by the rules. TKA's should be effected by damage mitigation. Rifleman should have a speed cap and a melee damage penalty. Combat Medics should have a 64 m range cap and there should be a defense against poison. Name one person who was a successful in PvP who isn't a defense stacker and who doesn't play one of the above classes and I will quit whining forever. The only people that can come close to these uber templates are pistoleer/smugglers and I played that combo for a while. It hits the health pool and doesn't do nearly as much damage as (insert l33t flavor of the month here). Do you really think its fair that the above classes can ignore all of the rules that Swordsman, Pikeman, Fencer, Commando, Carbineer, Pistoleer, and Bounty Hunter classes have to follow?



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TaylorRockford
Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:18 am
#18

im having a blast lvl-ing sowrdsman im 0/1/3/3 so far and thats jsut ina day at the tusken fort only playin ga dfew hours using my two handed cleaver lol. swordsman is pretty tough, ill have to see what im going to do after this keep it or go tka i dunno....



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Dwight10
Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:30 am
#19


@young padawan


youre the greatest eh? nobody wants to hear your comments....

do templates lol!! u have no idea

and


@Aunna


You cant say stop whining about swordsmen and does a swordsman got enough good skills...

And then: talking about using master brawler and carbine defenses bla bla bla...


It sucks, that, if you want to be strong in pvp, u have to do one of the uber professions. it would be much more interesting, if we had a bigger variety of the fighters.

The bleeds we had were really good and without them we cant do anything against, for example, fencers. you cant do dmg on em...

im tired of the jawa ion rifle headshot and kd/dizzy war...

Aunna
Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:50 am
#20

if you want to be good at pvp u need to df stack, i do and im great, if you dont want to be a great pvp swordsman, dont pick up the carbineer df, dont get master brawler...atm in this game you need to really invest in combat classes if you want to do well in pvp...i wish it wasnt like that but thats the way it is lol...


ivekilled rifleman before, ive killed TKM before, i dont think i ever killed a combat medic without my friends help...but o well lol, they put the points into the class...let them have there dots



and this is too Dwight10


If u say u cant hit a fencer...use intimidate1...everyone has it who gets novice brawler....they are actually quite easy to hit lol


ig you area straight swordsman and nothing else, be prepared for a tough time


if you take some other profs that complement it you will realize that we can be just as competitive as a TKM or a Rifleman


once the combat reballance happens i hope i can drop the cabineer line and put it into somethin else, but for now im enjoying myself as a swordman with all my complementing profs






Aunna Gianna [ONE]- Ahazi
Master Swordsman - Master Brawler
Pistoleer 0344 - Smuggler 0040 - Novice Medic
raider7734
Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:45 am
#21






Aunna, you have apoint that being good in pvp, at least for now, requires spending points all over the place for defenses, counterattack, specials, etc.


Butwith your speed enhancers, you are running around doing more damage thanTHREE Swordsmen. Is it any wonder you do well?


Look, not everyone is lucky enough to be capped out on speed, so cut these people some slack!


Take off your speed enhancing gear and go pvp, and see how you like it.


The way it worked before, even if you didn't have a lot of speed, you could still do well byslapping on the bleeds and outlasting them... but that just went out the window.


That's what a lot of people here are working with, and they have a legitimite gripe. Lame bleeds + lousy damage output = a rough time in pvp.







I also want to add this:The fact that we can double and triple our damage output with speed enhancers, is a colossal fluke...but one I'm glad works in our favor, because without it, our damage output positively blows.


Speed enhancers don't help Fencer, nor TK... they're already maxxed out on speed. But thanks to the crazy speed equation that goes ballistic at around +90,enhancers let ustake specials that normally take up to3.3 seconds, and spam them at the speed capfor insanely high damage output.


Folks, it's not supposed to work that way...enjoy it while it lasts, but don't flame others that don't have the same huge advantage you do.





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DarthFuse
Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:15 pm
#22

Yea i gotta agree with raider, i dont want have to master brawler to be effective in pvp with my sword. I wanna be more creative. Every swordsmen i have talked to PVP wise is a master brawler, and from what i hear it seems to be a must have. I have no interest in fencing, or pikemen at all so why would i want to go through the chore of grinding the xp, when i could be doing something i actually want to get into. There's gotta be another way then just becoming master brawler/tka or what ever. I am a swordsmen 4/4/4/3 and a 2/1/1/0 tka. Why are my novice tka moves doing more damage than my advance swordsmen techniques? I mean ont get me wrong, this is the one profession i will never ever drop, but we barely get by on PvE now. That just stinks
Aunna
Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:40 pm
#23


Raider7734...im jsut trying to be the best damn swordsman cause i love it and will NEVER drop it

atm i have some good equipment and ALL my points tied up


i didnt mean to flame

but beleive me it didnt come easy to get to were i am...if you stick with it good things will come


i would REALLY love to beable to drop master brawler and carbine df line...i hope it comes to that after the combat rebalance so i can for once become a ranger...but for now i like swordsman more so i play as one.


o and about the bleeds...since thepatch i havent had any trouble with commados, there burns dont really hurt that much anymore...and neiter do rifleman mind bleeds...we last longer too now cause other classes dont hit as hard with there bleeds...


keep your heads up


ty

/bow





Aunna Gianna [ONE]- Ahazi
Master Swordsman - Master Brawler
Pistoleer 0344 - Smuggler 0040 - Novice Medic
Dwight10
Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:35 am
#24

yes you need to def stack. but this wont be longer here... yay, im lookin forward to this patch.


I am Master Heavy swordsman, Master Brawler and Doc 0340...


I got tapes with:


+ 9 2handed melee dmg


+ 8 2handed melee evasion


+15counterattack


Iwont write down how many i killed of em and of em, I dont like the way... i never said i dont do good in pvp...


But for example, if a Fencer comes with Pistol Techniques tree, i can rarely do dmg... Hope the devs put the dev stack out soon...


The thing is, i want, that we swordsmen can do more with our swordsmen skills... That d be just fair...


Let the Tkas do their kd/dizzy, let the rifles do their mind hits with jawa ion, i dont complain about that. but i want, that swordsmen get more skills or more different skills... I hope you understand what i mean. Tkas dont need to take other skills to be good in fighting. why should we? (rhetoric question, u dont need to answer this one)



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Dredly
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:55 am
#25

just wait until defense stacking goes away.
Smerdy
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:10 am
#26



Aunna wrote:

you "crying swordsman" make me sick

im tirred of people telling us we are useless...WE ARE NOT USELESS...stop crying and start using all your moves...

jees

ty

/bow






Well stated!

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