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Thread: Whats the Best PvP Temp for Swordsman
TheSecondLetter wrote:
Akuma-Paragon wrote:
id say the best overall templates, though #1 is probably THE best:
1. mSwords, mBrawler, Pikes 0040, TKA 0100, Doc 4004
2. mSwords, Fencer 0304, TKA 0400, Doc 4004
-apeist
Message Edited by Akuma-Paragon on 09-22-2005 06:52 PM
I have the first one up there. Let me just say it is a crazy temp. No REAL weakness. I'm a straight nuker, heals up the wahzoo. buffs, Imp Cob. and for defense. Warcry/intimidate is the best. only move i wish i had from two would be the snare. On my server there are only a hand full of jedi that can beat me. and one non. Apeist lol.
Critical' Skillz'
Depressing lol...I am going to be shelving my Jedi and using my Swordsman-Doc toon for pvp.
Crit, do you have adk-ed AB RIS? If so, how many adks do you have, and what was the whole cost of armor and adks?
JeffIncredible wrote:
AriasImmortal wrote:
and as to the first template, warcry is nice, but whenever I get warcried I just switch to my Blade of NO, and I hardly notice a drop in damage.
It's more than just your damage that is effected in that situation though. Warcry is a speed debuff, so if it forces you to switch over to the blade of nyenthi'oris there is a good chance you are taking a slight speed hit as well as a sac hit. That depends on the stats of your primary weapon though. I base my weapon choice more around sac and speed than big dmg numbers.Right now I have one hammer with a sac pup on it that I use for spamming and one that I have a speed pup on (sac 82, dmg 1040) to lay the dmg on. 2 hits will always be more powerful than 1, that's why I choose speed.
What you use is probably dependant on who you're fighting and how... I haven't had any problems using high SAC weapons, since I don't generally go all out, I like to play smart but fast (only use my major attacks when they're AB/KDd or almost dead, alternating HH with melee hit to keep em healing for little action cost), and for that playstyle the damage is generally more useful.
Now, if I were to switch to the pike temp, I'd probably go for more of a wearing down style, where I just outlast my opponents mind (read:boring as hell) rather than outdamage their healing. For that kind of style, I'd definetly go with a low SAC or low speed PH.
VYRIS wrote:
TheSecondLetter wrote:
Akuma-Paragon wrote:
id say the best overall templates, though #1 is probably THE best:
1. mSwords, mBrawler, Pikes 0040, TKA 0100, Doc 4004
2. mSwords, Fencer 0304, TKA 0400, Doc 4004
-apeist
Message Edited by Akuma-Paragon on 09-22-200506:52 PM
I have the first one up there. Let me just say it is a crazy temp. No REAL weakness. I'm a straight nuker, heals up the wahzoo. buffs, Imp Cob. and for defense. Warcry/intimidate is the best. only move i wish i had from two would be the snare. On my server there are only a hand full of jedi that can beat me. and one non. Apeist lol.
Critical' Skillz'
Depressing lol...I am going to be shelving my Jedi and using my Swordsman-Doc toon for pvp.
Crit, do you have adk-ed AB RIS? If so, how many adks do you have, and what was the whole cost of armor and adks?
i dont usually have a problem wit my action. If I ever did go Mpike I would do the usual wear out tactic like somone said before.
I heard good faction armor is like 6500 resis...which seems to come close to RIS 7k. Is there any compelling reason to use RIS over faction armor and pay a ton more in creds for 500 more resis? Anyone with feedback on this is welcome to answer please.
TheSecondLetter wrote:
My ris is 6k across the boards and 25%ab slice. the helmet, chest, and legs are adk'd. I have all types of aa's/ca's. I bought the suit wit 75%of the aa's already attached. I havent checked for another suit to get the full 75% cause wit the aa's its gonna be a lot of credits. I am capped in 2hd mods. and about 75% capped in both melee acc/speed. My hammer with a 34% damage pup is 845-1459. sac 104. Ppl usually dont know how to manage their actions. melee hit is my friend
Critical' Skillz'
the doc 4004 buffs arent nearly as good as mdoc buffs are they? and if u went 4000 and got some tapes taht add to +25 healing eff.. u could have the healing of mdoc right?
VYRIS wrote:
TheSecondLetter wrote:
Akuma-Paragon wrote:
id say the best overall templates, though #1 is probably THE best:
1. mSwords, mBrawler, Pikes 0040, TKA 0100, Doc 4004
2. mSwords, Fencer 0304, TKA 0400, Doc 4004
-apeist
Message Edited by Akuma-Paragon on 09-22-2005 06:52 PM
I have the first one up there. Let me just say it is a crazy temp. No REAL weakness. I'm a straight nuker, heals up the wahzoo. buffs, Imp Cob. and for defense. Warcry/intimidate is the best. only move i wish i had from two would be the snare. On my server there are only a hand full of jedi that can beat me. and one non. Apeist lol.
Critical' Skillz'
Depressing lol...I am going to be shelving my Jedi and using my Swordsman-Doc toon for pvp.
Crit, do you have adk-ed AB RIS? If so, how many adks do you have, and what was the whole cost of armor and adks?
temp that works well for me is
Mswords
Mbrawler ( for extra acc and speed )
Doc 4000 ( decent healing )
tka 0100 ( you get advanced CoB = 500 pts of defense as a opposed to general CoB with only 250 pts of defense )
Pikeman 0440 ( a ton of accuracy in the x4xx tree and Intimidate in the xx4x )
With this temp u can stack Adv CoB, Improved flurry ( gives defensive bonuses), intimidate, and some really nice AB sliced battle armor with some Melee/Ranged Def bio clothing. I tanked 2 jedi with all that stacked, each would only hit me for a bout 75-100 per hit, and i could heal it all back.
You also have an area KD for these situations and advanced Armor break, so u can reak havoc on jedi.
1 v 1 on jedi, if you cant kill him, u can most definitely outlast them until they run out of force. I have done it, you can too, this template is Godly if you know how to pvp.
VYRIS wrote:
I heard good faction armor is like 6500 resis...which seems to come close to RIS 7k. Is there any compelling reason to use RIS over faction armor and pay a ton more in creds for 500 more resis? Anyone with feedback on this is welcome to answer please.
TheSecondLetter wrote:
My ris is 6k across the boards and 25%ab slice. the helmet, chest, and legs are adk'd. I have all types of aa's/ca's. I bought the suit wit 75%of the aa's already attached. I havent checked for another suit to get the full 75% cause wit the aa's its gonna be a lot of credits. I am capped in 2hd mods. and about 75% capped in both melee acc/speed. My hammer with a 34% damage pup is 845-1459. sac 104. Ppl usually dont know how to manage their actions. melee hit is my friend
Critical' Skillz'
gah you cankler. it doesnt matter what type of battle armor it is, you can get it to the same stats. you can have bone armor at the same level or better than ris, at least when it comes to resistances. th emain difference between teh different armor is condition. padded- about 45k, faction- about 65k, ris- about 105k.
when people talk about 6.5k resist armor, they mean 6.5k to both kinetic and energy, and 5.5k to all the elementals. thats because it was made with primus layers. the 7k ris you speak of is either kinetic layered or energy layered. if its 7k energy, the its 4k kinetic, and vice versa. there isnt some uber 6.5k resist to all stats armor, or even 7k to all stats armor. but you can kinetic layer/energy layer any type of battle armor.
the only reason to get ris over anything else is because of look preference and condition. of course if your gonna get uber ris made your probly gonna have adk's ready. my main suit of armor was rebel battle armor. i loved that stuff. 67k condition, 6k resist to everything. cost me 500k. if it was primus layered, and 6.5k to kin and energy, and 5.5k to everything else, it probly would have cost 800k. i also bought some 100% repair kits to go with it, to make sure it lasted for me through those long pvp nights.
and you know me, i dont have any time to raise money for any so silly as uber equipment or adk's lol.
Message Edited by Akuma-Paragon on 09-26-2005 03:40 PM
i know this is not a swords temp but i would think a good temp would be
tkm (improved center of being,meditate,power boost)
swords 0/4/3/0 (improved head hit, Advanced Armor Break)
Pikes 0/0/4/0 (improved warcry, Intimidate) cl lvl 76
i dont know if it is good or bad i just think it looks good on paper