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Thread: New Swordsman Correspondent!

Popov
Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:26 am
#14

Hmmm seems that we are getting a lot of new Correspondents since around the time the CU beta was about to get underway soooo...... exactly how many quit over the CU anyway?
Roeding
Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:43 am
#15






Popov wrote:

Hmmm seems that we are getting a lot of new Correspondents since around the time the CU beta was about to get underway soooo...... exactly how many quit over the CU anyway?






Yes, seems they are beeing replaced with ppl who willagree with the dev's decisions, the correspondent system might as well be scrapped.




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KreyMerr
Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:48 am
#16



Roeding wrote:


Popov wrote:
Hmmm seems that we are getting a lot of new Correspondents since around the time the CU beta was about to get underway soooo...... exactly how many quit over the CU anyway?



Yes, seems they are beeing replaced with ppl who will agree with the dev's decisions, the correspondent system might as well be scrapped.




Our job isnt to agree or disagree with the Devs, its to ask you if you agree or disagree with them and then let them know. I'm guessing you disagree with some things, so check out my 3 questions post and let me know.



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RedDestinyCC
Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:00 pm
#17






KreyMerr wrote:





Roeding wrote:





Popov wrote:

Hmmm seems that we are getting a lot of new Correspondents since around the time the CU beta was about to get underway soooo...... exactly how many quit over the CU anyway?






Yes, seems they are beeing replaced with ppl who will agree with the dev's decisions, the correspondent system might as well be scrapped.






Our job isnt to agree or disagree with the Devs, its to ask you if you agree or disagree with them and then let them know. I'm guessing you disagree with some things, so check out my 3 questions post and let me know.




Doesn't answer the question, its no secret that:



  1. Correspondents have said that their objections to the CU GR (game revamp) were ignored and that they did not like it, and also that the GR that was released to test center was different again from what they were made privy to, to begin with, hence the animosity from many correspondents to the GR, and further demonstrating the ivory tower that this GR was crafted in.

  2. Correspondents have been dropping like flies, in double digits. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math on 2 + 2, with the timing of the GR documents and the exodus/removal of so many correspondents.

What agenda is the SOE SWG team serving? I'm clueless. They're not serving the customers, our needs, or our community. They're operating in a vacuum, not including the players or the correspondents, they're completely destroying professions, completely rewriting others (all combat), completely redoing the interface, icons, look, sounds, feel... basically to add up more simple math, they've tossed our game out the window and slipped in a different game. CU???? It's a GR folks. And I don't know what the agenda is, its not the customers' agenda or the customers' game.


Pedman
Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:19 pm
#18






KreyMerr wrote:
CU-TC: Cos
TC-Prime: Dorvo, KreyMerr, Aeiou
Chilastra: Cos


Feel free to /tell me whenever. Send them to chilastra if you have to, I still spend plenty of time there.
you would use /tell chilastra.cos message to get ahold of me there. Also PMing me here will get my attention. I will read any PMs I get, and reply as fit.



Whats with all the corespondants coming from Chilastra ive seen a few the carbs, an old chef one wasent he? maybe some others. Just thought that was weird.......

Message Edited by Pedman on 04-12-2005 04:22 PM

StarNick
Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:33 pm
#19

Congratulations!

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AriasImmortal
Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:47 pm
#20


grats, I'm glad you got it I'm too much of an a**hole to do a good job.



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ALeoNN
Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:00 pm
#21

congrats




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Bennyboy4308
Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:20 pm
#22



Pedman wrote:


KreyMerr wrote:
CU-TC: Cos
TC-Prime: Dorvo, KreyMerr, Aeiou
Chilastra: Cos


Feel free to /tell me whenever. Send them to chilastra if you have to, I still spend plenty of time there.
you would use /tell chilastra.cos message to get ahold of me there. Also PMing me here will get my attention. I will read any PMs I get, and reply as fit.

Whats with all the corespondants coming from Chilastra ive seen a few the carbs, an old chef one wasent he? maybe some others. Just thought that was weird.......

Message Edited by Pedman on 04-12-2005 04:22 PM



They say that Chilastra forums are so bad that people have no choice but to do constructive things, thus the unproportionate number of correspondants from Chilly.



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DaPrez
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:03 pm
#23

GRATS!!!




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MasterofKatana
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:05 pm
#24

Congratulations KreyMerr!



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Crizis
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:52 pm
#25






Higginsis wrote:





Popov wrote:

Hmmm seems that we are getting a lot of new Correspondents since around the time the CU beta was about to get underway soooo...... exactly how many quit over the CU anyway?




None.

CU now run on a 6 month basis. The 6 month term set in november of last year was up, so the corres could either pass on, or reapply. Seen as most had been a corre for over a year, most wanted a break.

No one has "quit" as far as i'm aware.

And congrats Kreymerr.




Those two statements are contrary to each other. By not reapplying, they quit. It was said by correspondents that they were not happy with the scope of the game changes, and that by the time it hit the test center, it was even different from what they had seen and dissented about. I've been here since 2003 and have never seen such a migration of correspondents as we've seen around the SWG game being reintroduced as an all new game, and our old game that we worked hard on developing our avatars in, being ditched, in many many cases, player's professions have been destroyed (hello all the crafting Docs out there who just had their businesses destroyed and thier crafting destroyed.)


Considering the feedback, the correspondents do not serve the community, and when they try to, they are ignored. No point in arguing that with me, I can cite countless examples of the fact that correspondents are simply used by SOE when they want to pass something by, but by no means has SOE shown any significant signs of giving any consideration to the desires of the community or their so-called correspondents, and instead repeatedly have shown that they make decisions in an ivory tower method that has all but destroyed us, and well may. The game being redone as described above in the above paragraph is the worst example thus far.


Another significant one was when they had a horrific impact to the game with the holo-grinding launch, and instead of just fixing the content to achieve a jedi account that didn't have the whole galaxy stopping to holo-grind, by launching the village content for example, they also took it upon themselves to rewrite all the jedi trees seemingly out of the blue, and simultaneously introduced FRS, negative XP, skill loss, and all that mess, out of the blue, in a vacuum, and when all that was needed was to replace the hologrind with the village. In a similar vien, instead of balancing out combat, buffs, and mind components, they completely destroy our game and rewrite it, as they did previously with jedi. What a bunch of utter, vile, absurd crap. And correspondents did nothing for us, were themselves left out of the loop, served no purpose, and continue to serve no purpose other than for SOE to use once in a while.


Discontinue the Correspondent program, IMHO. It's a sham by SOE to make players think they have any input, when we in fact do not. SOE SWG's agenda is their own.





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Management change and credibility is expected & deserved, and really a requirement for me to desire to log in and not have my MMORPG time completely wasted. SWG's mismanagement, ongoing, lacks credibility. I have no desire to log into my toon, attempt to accomplish something, only to find out that my blue zebra, 12th level, with 20 badges, isn't going to be turned into tomorrow's 4th tier yellow monkey, and all the zebra's stuff is no longer of value. Without credibility, its just a duck hunt game that doesn't even keep score of how many shots land on a duck.
Crizis
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:55 pm
#26

And by the way, the Delete Posts army is out in force in this thread today, the posts have shrunk considerably from this thread, and many good points have been blasted by the moderators. As usual, the truth hurts, and they don't like the truth.



===================SIG================
Management change and credibility is expected & deserved, and really a requirement for me to desire to log in and not have my MMORPG time completely wasted. SWG's mismanagement, ongoing, lacks credibility. I have no desire to log into my toon, attempt to accomplish something, only to find out that my blue zebra, 12th level, with 20 badges, isn't going to be turned into tomorrow's 4th tier yellow monkey, and all the zebra's stuff is no longer of value. Without credibility, its just a duck hunt game that doesn't even keep score of how many shots land on a duck.
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