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Thread: AP3 Sword: Fact, Fiction, or Rumor?
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Noc-turnal
Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:06 am
#14
AP3 will put swordman over the top that means +50% damage through composit armour. with our damage mutiplier on that would kill people with no melee migration in matters of a few hits. and melee migration are supositly going to be removed. as it is you can hit a range fighter with no melee profession for 1k damage a swing, dont need more than that.
but issue of piecing armour needs looking in but with armour may possibly be getting nerfed it might not even be an issue in the future
Droci
Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:42 am
#15
strafe shot 2 is 5x damage, head hit 3 from swords 3.5x damage, typical T21 damage is like 500+, add in the bonus from heavy ap, andrifle wins, swordsman will need a good ackley to compete, but as rare as good krayt T21's are, if rifleman gets one of these, no chance for swordsman
HavocX1 wrote:
Daishidemon wrote:
speed cap + strafe shot = rifleman wins
speed cap + head hit + 600 damage PH = swordsman wins
DarthVillanus
Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:32 pm
#16
Noc-turnal wrote:
AP3 will put swordman over the top that means +50% damage through composit armour. with our damage mutiplier on that would kill people with no melee migration in matters of a few hits. and melee migration are supositly going to be removed. as it is you can hit a range fighter with no melee profession for 1k damage a swing, dont need more than that.
but issue of piecing armour needs looking in but with armour may possibly be getting nerfed it might not even be an issue in the future
It's no different than a Rifleman with a powered-up T-21 doing 300 mind dmgto me with headshot3through my 90% armor and sliced psg from 60m away.
You don't need melee mit when you got uber armor.
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Magnite
Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:52 pm
#17
Im a pikey, trust me i can outdamage any swordsmen or riflemen, jedi for pure pve damage, however i have to rely on looted weaponry. I was simply refering to the start game scenario where pikemen where supposed to be the heavy hitters of the melee classes and thus sacrificing defence to show for it. And as it turns, this did not come to pass.
blaketheone
Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:52 pm
#18
i bet the new kasshykian sword(wookie sword) or however u spell it will be AP3. i bet the wookie pike will be to
dam wookies
dam wookies
MasterTexiria
Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:16 pm
#19
hey don't hate us because we make better weapons then you
Liwiwo
Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:41 pm
#21
you cant be serious about ap3 on a hammer or sword, ap3 is what a rocket does, ive never seen anyone smash up a tank with a damn hammer or sword.
and a rifleman will always be able to outdmg a swordsman, and why would you do headhit against a rifleman doing strafe2, that will just make him deal way more dmg than you, no doubt about swordsman beeing a hard hitting proff, but you gotta be somewhat high on yourself to think that you can outdamage a capped rifleman with a goodt21 unless you have a 2k dmg hammer.
Keuller
Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:07 am
#22
That's precisely the point, we have no chance of out damaging a rifleman with a decent T21. They also get way more damage types (stun, acid, heat, energy, kinetic) in addition to their AP3 weapon. They also get 2x our melee and ranged defenses. But we're not asking for a nerf of riflemen, we're asking to be brought on par with our heavy hitting ranged equivalent profession.
caltex2006
Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:01 am
#23
Keuller wrote:
That's precisely the point, we have no chance of out damaging a rifleman with a decent T21. They also get way more damage types (stun, acid, heat, energy, kinetic) in addition to their AP3 weapon. They also get 2x our melee and ranged defenses. But we're not asking for a nerf of riflemen, we're asking to be brought on par with our heavy hitting ranged equivalent profession.
Umm, riflemen do not have kinetic, way long ago tusken rifles were nerfed to energy. Our heat damage is extremely rare to get and is ap0. Our viable damage types are stun, energy, and acid. A heavy rifle should have heavy p, a sword on the other hand should not. Riflemen should outdamage swordsmen, because we cannot tank things like you.
Dynastar
Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:35 pm
#24
If you're a Rifleman being outdamaged by a Swordsman, you seriously need to reconsider your equipment and skill-tapes.
On the Wookiee Sword being AP3:
I wouldn't bet on it. The Devs previously stated that any inherently certified weapons(IE, Wookiee weapons) would be decent, but nowhere near as good as profession specific weapons. It'd be a tad unbalancing for a Brawler with Swords I to be using an AP3 200-500 Sword. But then again, SOE is a bunch of Goddamned liars.
On the Wookiee Sword being AP3:
I wouldn't bet on it. The Devs previously stated that any inherently certified weapons(IE, Wookiee weapons) would be decent, but nowhere near as good as profession specific weapons. It'd be a tad unbalancing for a Brawler with Swords I to be using an AP3 200-500 Sword. But then again, SOE is a bunch of Goddamned liars.
Message Edited by Dynastar on 08-30-2004 05:36 PM
Stewbacca96
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:24 am
#25
Hit3 is the highest damage output attack for Swordsman... if you're speed-capped anyways 
With a good hammer, u can hang with any rifleman, depending on the resists/ap of whatever you're fighting...
With a good hammer, u can hang with any rifleman, depending on the resists/ap of whatever you're fighting...
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