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Thread: whats a good swordsman temp for pvp?

Naruk_The_Wookiee
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:40 pm
#14






APEist_theReb wrote:

im not sure if its my template or just cause i know what im doing butone thing is for suremy template doesnt hurt.



IMO its all about the ppl. behind the toon(s)...and btw. intimidate2 stucks afaik within max. 3 or 4 attempts and can be donein 30m range...




Mastered Professions so far: * Brawler *TKA * Fencer * Swordsman * Pikeman * Marksman * Rifleman * Scout * Creature Handler * Medic
GirthSnail
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:21 am
#15






AriasImmortal wrote:
Master Swordsman/Master Brawler/Doc 4-0-3-0.

Can heal all states, disease/poison, and fire, plus you get to use those nifty AOE cures, its a great temp for solo and support. With a good PSG/stun helm you shouldn't have to worry too much about riflemen either... besides, they can't keep you intimidated





My template is very similar to this, except I only have 2/0/0/0 Doc, and 3/0/0/0 Fencer. The problem I've found is that although I can cure states, my defenses against them aren't high enough so as soon as it goes it's back again. When someone combines dizzy/kd with some DOTs, I get severly owned.



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APEist_theReb
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:21 pm
#16






AriasImmortal wrote:
BTW, friend of mine has 100 intim def, doesn't do **edit**. It's apparently a broken mod :/






AH HA!!!! ive been wondering that! most ppl dont believe me when i offer them the notion that defense vs intimidate doesnt work.


hey naruk what were u trying to say in that last post? if it was intimidate stacks and has 30 meter range yea i know... and could somebody pls tell me what afaik means??






APEist

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I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

jmonty
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:02 pm
#17

i'm going to try master swordsman/masterbrawler/master carbineer with tk 0003.


probably not the uber-est, probably not even close... but i think it'll be fun.




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AriasImmortal
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:21 pm
#18



GirthSnail wrote:


AriasImmortal wrote:
Master Swordsman/Master Brawler/Doc 4-0-3-0.

Can heal all states, disease/poison, and fire, plus you get to use those nifty AOE cures, its a great temp for solo and support. With a good PSG/stun helm you shouldn't have to worry too much about riflemen either... besides, they can't keep you intimidated


My template is very similar to this, except I only have 2/0/0/0 Doc, and 3/0/0/0 Fencer. The problem I've found is that although I can cure states, my defenses against them aren't high enough so as soon as it goes it's back again. When someone combines dizzy/kd with some DOTs, I get severly owned.




Well, with that temp you can't heal disease or fire... IMO its well worth dropping all defenses other than swordsmans in order to cure those 2 things (plus you get more healing speed).

Only problem I have is with MRM as i said, but that can be negated Healing all dots is well well well worth it



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MasterofKatana
Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:31 pm
#19

Does anyone know any ways to defeat a Jedi Knight in PvP? And what template would be effective against them mainly that uses Swordsman as its main?



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Swordsman Motto : We like our women like our enemies, hammered.
APEist_theReb
Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:59 pm
#20

Arias ur template is good, but vs other swordsman its not that great. my friend went ur template several months ago, and every time we fight i own him. hes good to he doesnt let me keep him intimidated or have any states on him for that matter, but he just doesnt have the defense. btw he has 34 melee defense (tapes) and capped counterattack which of course is also from tapes.


he just doesnt have the defense to keep me from bashing his mind down. hell he even has 90% kinetic armor!


in a duel i cant beat him until his canape runs out, since i cant out damage the regen, but in normal pvp he usually has other foods going since in group fights canape isnt gonna save u from 4 or 5 ppl battering on your mind. anyways... once his canape runs out hes all mine.


and he just doesnt do enough dmg to me. i let my mind go down to around half and then hit a canape and equip a vibro axe lol and just sit there, not doing specials or anything. even when im kd/dizzy he cant get thru the regen.


also i was wondering... wouldnt you have trouble with pistol/bh's with the wicked accuracy and eye shot?? i mean theskilled,non idiot ones that are good at keep themselves outta ur range hehe.



APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

APEist_theReb
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:05 pm
#21






MasterofKatana wrote:

Does anyone know any ways to defeat a Jedi Knight in PvP? And what template would be effective against them mainly that uses Swordsman as its main?







any template that has a fair amount of defense and master brawler and some medic.


why?? the defense keeps them from pummeling you obviously, the warcry 2 from master brawler lets u delay the jedi and get 4 heals in without the jedi being able to attack you, the option to use 2 different lunges, 1 a posture change and the other a knock down, and swordsman naturally are good vs jedi because of our toughness mod, and master brawler gives us like +5 toughness.


with the template i mentioned in my first post on this thread i take jedi pretty well, but im sure there are better.




APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

MasterofKatana
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:27 pm
#22






APEist_theReb wrote:





MasterofKatana wrote:

Does anyone know any ways to defeat a Jedi Knight in PvP? And what template would be effective against them mainly that uses Swordsman as its main?







any template that has a fair amount of defense and master brawler and some medic.


why?? the defense keeps them from pummeling you obviously, the warcry 2 from master brawler lets u delay the jedi and get 4 heals in without the jedi being able to attack you, the option to use 2 different lunges, 1 a posture change and the other a knock down, and swordsman naturally are good vs jedi because of our toughness mod, and master brawler gives us like +5 toughness.


with the template i mentioned in my first post on this thread i take jedi pretty well, but im sure there are better.







Thanks for the advice APEist_theReb. Also, would Force Sensitive skills like enhanced melee speed/accuracy and other FS skills be worth it?



Corbec Shotokan - Grandmaster of the Red Dragon - Starsider
Swordsman Motto : We like our women like our enemies, hammered.
APEist_theReb
Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:51 pm
#23

probly so... but remember they cost skill points so paying/looting attachments has its advantages also.


but even if u can get attachments thru loot.... youd have to make the choice... spend points getting the speed and accuracy (i only think it takes like 8 points to get both +12 to speed and accuracy) or keep those points in defensive boxes. its gonna be a tough choice for some.


also keep in mind it will take a LONG time to get the 4 boxes for speed and the other four boxes for accuracy. you may be better off camping the trade forums.



APEist

Rebel Soldier of VYRIS

If I had a penny for all the people I've damned,
I'd be a trillionaire, and btw, damn you.


+80 speed and I'll still kick your ass.

Swordsman Motto: We like our women like our enemies, hammered.

AriasImmortal
Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:20 am
#24

lol, funny thing is that before i did this template i could duel another meleer for 30 mins w/o anyone getting the upper hand... now i win a lot more, because i can heal my intim and do much more damage than my opponent can, so those 30 min duels are cut down to like 5 minutes. there's a big difference between 200 damage and 500 damage per hit
It works well against everything if you learn how to use it properly.



ARIAS TE'THAI
Master Swordsman|Elevator Wh0re
ECHUU|ECHUU-SHEN
Jedi Knight |Mandalorian Enforcer
Day One player/Pre-9 Jedi/PvP God. All gone. Canceled.

MasterofKatana
Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:16 am
#25

Another reason I would get FS abilities is because you are supposed to get an alternate character on the same galaxy when you get 24 FS skills. If it weren't for that I wouldn't even bother with the FS skills. I try to include those in templates and especially ones for killing Jedi, but it doesn't fit anywhere without giving up some important defensive skill. I'll try building a few more templates and see what I can come up with.


FIN



Corbec Shotokan - Grandmaster of the Red Dragon - Starsider
Swordsman Motto : We like our women like our enemies, hammered.
st0nedpenguin
Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:45 am
#26






Liwiwo wrote:

just untill some rifleman shows up with a 1k dmg t21 and do strafe2 on you for 2000 dmg every second, even with a 90% armor thats 200 dmg going through every second, too many ppl overlook ranged mitigation when doing a pvp melee template.







And some of us have Doc in our template, thus can't afford to spend points on ranged mitigation because we need the points to be able to cure crazy stackers like this lot from all the poisons and diseases.


Also, how many 1k dmg T21's do you have on your server?


On Farstar, the only ones that are over 1k dmg are the exceptionals, and you hardly see them every day...




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