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Thread: SWORDSMENS'S ROUND TABLE: Do we need different or more weapons ?

EtherTap
Wed Jul 23, 2003 2:55 pm
#14

I think ALL classes need more weapons, and there should be some sort of weapon customization ability that allows people to color weapons or add patterns or something if that ilk. I would like to see 4 or 5 more weapons, added to each class at some point, that said, I think there are other issues that need to be addresed first *cough*commando*cough* I would like to see melee weapons with different damage types as well, i mean, if you have an axe that vibrates to be sharper (makes no sence) why cant you stick a generator to it and electrify the blade? or add poison to the blade...



To sum it up, add more weapons, but fix big problems first.




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JiangWei
Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:55 pm
#15

Scythe

Speculated to be like the Rantok sword in the fencer class and is a Quest drop of some sort.

Power Hammer

Bugged to hell and not worth crafting. Weak Damage for its horrific speed. 65-216 6.3 Speed?

Cleaver

Don't know about the other server's but on Starsider the resources to make this weapon DO NOT EXIST. That's right, the resource's don't exist which means our guy's can't craft em.

As to seeing some more swords? Hell yes, I am talking Auron style from FFX. I'm talking Inuyasha here baby. Swords that are so big I have to carry them over my shoulder. Speaking of which, see if you can get the devs to put that animation in. Dosen't seem right to carry a Two-Handed Sword out like a One-Handed Weapon.



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Nydes
Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:59 pm
#16

Well on my server the materials required for a cleaver arnt even available, and by the way thing are looking there probably not going to be available in a long ass time, so untill then the only sword that swordsmen have on my server are 2h curved swords, and thats at master two-hand specialization, seeing how out profession and title is SWORDSMAN why do we have so many crappy axes and not any swords?


i for one would like to see many more sword type weapons, maybe a vibro katana, heavy claymore, vibro claymore.. you know... big ass two handed swords like that..

googlekan
Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:29 pm
#17

I guess im lucky. I got a 2 handed cleaver from a crafter name caella on bloodfin. it 53-143 at 4.3 I don't know what quality it is and how much better it gets HAM 42 44 23 . It just sits in my inventory ever since i got my curved sword with is like 30-216 sliced at 2.3 speed or something. Not the best made but ok. The ham tottaly eats away at my action. Its like 64 action. I guess its not as bad as my T21 which uses a wopping 74 mind. But the curved sword is 4 times faster so my stats get eatin when using spin attacks. Anyway. Swordsman is a confusing class. I forgot what the point of this message was supposed to be so cya

OldNeil
Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:47 pm
#18

I've never understood why a power hammer cert is higher up the tree than the 2 hand curved sword. IMHO our best weapon or what we should be attaining in the swordsman line should be a .....yeah a 2 handed sword. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my 2 handed curved. How about a claymore instead of a hammer that has high damage and slower speed?
Mystic_Squirrel
Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:05 am
#19

Maybe they can add a 2-handed Virbo-Sword or something?


Definately the most frustrating part of the 2-handed sword line was getting up to Master with my crappy 2-handed axe that I looted from an Evil Hermit. It's made even worse when you see all the awesome weapons that the other melee classes can get, ie: Vibro-swords, Ryyk Blades, Vibro-Knucklers.


The lack of Vibro-Axes and 2-handed Cleavers is definately frustrating. I've talked to some high lvl WSs and they're definately is none of the materials needed to make better stuff on SR. At least I was able to buy a decent Curved Sword.




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Nagorak
Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:10 am
#20

I think the 2H line was meant to be heavier weapons like axes and hammers. "Swordsman" was a very poor choice of title for the profession. I think you should just ask that the profession be changed to something else and that 1H be changed to fencing.


Also, resources are random, many servers don't have the stuff needed for certain weapons yet. That's how the game is designed. Another thing: you don't have to use your special attacks all the time. If you're going up against something easy, just use standard attacks. If you're tanking DO NOT use specials. If you're going against something hard, you usually benefit from using specials to bring it down as fast as possible.

caribbeanbreeze
Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:47 am
#21

I sincerely believe we are short handed. What is the title of our profession? " SWORDSMAN" Not " AXEMAN", not " HAMMERMAN" no....S W O R D S M A N !!!! This is not Lord Of the Rings. We are not Dwarves. We are individuals trying to follow the footsteps of great Jedi masters who use Lightsabers..a form of sword. When was the last time you saw someone on Star Wars running around with an axe or hammer? Listen Dev's Not sure what your thoughts were when developing swordsman but give some hope we NEEEEEED MORE SWORDSSSSS. This axe and hammer thing is so discouraging. How many of usdo you think would have chose this profession if we knew before hand that for several months of play time we would basically only get to use axes and hammers? What a let down when after so much effort is put into attaining 125000 xp...not a quick thing to do...you reach NoviceSWORDSMAN and what skill do you recieve...power hammer cert. oh yeah...come on man where's your heads..there we go back to Lord of the Rings. And think about this..a SWORD is NOT an AXE is NOT a HAMMER..It is a SWORD. Just like a pistol is not a dart gun or sling shot..Its amazing a marksman gets to use his weapon, a rifle or carbine or pistol...you know the actual weapons of his profession..however a SWORDSMAN only if he is very VERY fortunate gets to use his true weapon of trade....you know... a S W O R D. But for the most part only weapons 99% available to him is AXE or HAMMER...(Lord of the Rings again). Basically what I'm saying is devs make our profession a real profession...Make it SWORDSMAN if there are those who want the axe profession or hammer profession hey maybe add it later on..but you have all of us who chose this career because it said SWORDSMAN!!!!
MarahXiBoh
Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:45 am
#22

Sinceeverything i just wrote got erased when i clicked the submit button i will try and paraphrase everything i had written earlier. I have two gripes:


Gripe No. 1:I'm not very upset about the lack of a variety of weapons. I love the IDEA of the POWER hammer...unfortunately, there is no POWER in the POWER hammer. It does less damage than my two handed swordin twice the time with much more HAM bar costs. Both weapons were bought from the same MASTER weaponsmith. PLEASE give me a POWER hammer that is worthy of its title...i.e. make it POWERFUL.


Gripe No. 2: Why are our nastiest weapons quest items...I know of no marksman who had to complete 30 succesive missions in order to get there 400+ damage T21. Yet I'm sure that the scythe and the maul (the most powerful 2H weapon in the game, besideslightsaber,according to the prima guide) are quest items like the rantok sword. So in order to be on par with the rifleman who just walked to their nearest weaponsmith and walked out with their shiny new melee killer, we have to jump through hoops for all the npcs in the game in order to match them in power. AND WE'RE THE TANKS!!!


Cleetus McCoy


Redneck Samurai

Shrei
Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:55 am
#23

I bought a two-handed cleaver from LazCo on Ahazi last night. He has an entire vending machine dedicated to melee weapons. He had some VERY nice two-handed curved swords.



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XxTheBrainxX
Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:07 am
#24

stats?
OrionSilverhelm
Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:06 pm
#25

since fencers are for for 1h weapons and things lets have 4 melee classes not 3


tka- unarmed monkstyle fighting


fencers- 1 handed fighting, maybe even having two1 handed weapons wielded at same time,


axers/hammerers- people who like to fight with 1 medium or 2 small axes/hammers, American Indian sytle. Pretty cool.


Swordsman- 1 and 2 handed swords, same idea above for 2 1 handed weapons, even samurai would sometimes fight with their big and little sword at same time, making them do less damage but more blocking potential and 360% defense coverage.


Hammermen/ axemen- Big hammers big axes, pretty cool.


just a few ideas. I want to see middle eastern style axes, like arabian axes, those are way cool, egytpian style, fencing style, samurai, midevil style etc.




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Spinepuller
Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:15 am
#26

When you train 2 handed sword novice and gain the title for apprentice swordsman you gain a certification. Due to the title you would think logically that this would be a sword cert but instead it is a Hammer cert. This is silly and one isssue that should be address.




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