Swordsman Archive
Thread: Executioner's Hack: Updated
OnlyMaestro
Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:05 am
#118
bioshock wrote:
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Anyone else want a greatsword instead?
Katana. I see the curved sword and then I see "one-handed" and think, "that's just not right...".
That's true...but we have the Two-handed Curved Sword so who knows...
...but I want a Claymore, a 50lbs sword to cleave with.
Noxferatu
Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:56 am
#119
bioshock wrote:
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Anyone else want a greatsword instead?
Katana. I see the curved sword and then I see "one-handed" and think, "that's just not right...".
I think Katana when I see the curved . 
All they have to do is to rename it. Katanas were usually wielded with two hands anyhow.
All they have to do is to rename it. Katanas were usually wielded with two hands anyhow. Anyways.
Greatsword, claymore.. Why the hell would we want those? Just think of it.. We charging into a laser, ioncannon and flamethrowerbased war with a medevil weapon? Go back to DAoC and EQ mate.. This is science-fiction you know. At least the TKMs has "Vibro" in their knuckler to make it sound slightly futuristic. What we need is some kind of energized blade, or blades with attributes such as small explotions (gunblades) and stunblades (maybe doing 50% stun 50% energy damage)..
Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe.
Soulburner69
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:50 am
#120
"Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe."
one thing, mostly all melee weapons in this game are based from medieval weapons. for example the two hand curved sword and a katana, or a long vibro axe and the halberd (or bardiche). so why cant great swords, or katana's, or claymores, or flamberge's "cut it" when most of the weapons that us melee fighters weild are based from them? so a derivitive of the greatsword could be used personally i saw that as the cleaver. but a futureistic flamberge could be a heavy vibro sword, or something related to that? so do not say medieval weapons dont cut it, because we are running into battle with weapons based from them and thus if one doesnt cut it a derivitive of it wouldnt either.
Destryr
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:40 am
#121
the name of the weapon means nothing...sword andor any bladed weapon boils down to sharp piece of metal with a handle. Allmost <grin> every variation of blade and handle has been tried and improved or discarded.
it may be possible to incorporate any weapon into any time frame given the right circumsatnces and conditions, however i agree that in a starwars universe where vibro units and poison applicators are common that it would be silly and down right foolish not to apply these to a sword.
The vibro hammer is a fine example...a normal war hammer, heavy and quite cumbersome but with huge damage potential to heavilyy armoured targets..and the vibro hammer quite slow (read cumbersome)
having the added refinement of a vibro unit allowing not kinetic, but blast damage. It could just as easily have been stun damage.
The lack of swordsman weapons without poison or a disease is somewhat mystifying as is the Star wars weapon creators not thinking hey "this is a sword...how do we make a starwars sword?"
An electric sword wouldnt be beyong the realms of starwars, imagine a sword that does not have a sharp edge but instead 2 solenoids...with High voltage arcing between them.
add a filament and you have some form of heat emitting/damage sword.
the human race is ingenious in discovering new ways to kill each other, im sure the devs are partly human-)
so my question isnt why arent we seeing big swords little swords, axes whatever..but why are we still looking at sharp bits of metal with handles?
WarFerret
Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:54 am
#123
I want a Dai Katana or Claymore, almost purely for the looks, a Dai Katana is pretty light so it's armour piercing should be low, but it should be pretty fast and high damage, the claymore should be slower, but as it's a much heavier sword should be heavy armour piercing, both would probably be kinetic, unless we added vibro motors or electrical generators onto them.
Why weaponsmiths can't mod weapons for different damage types is beyond me, even if it means losing some effectiveness a different damage type would at least let you attack the damned target.
Syzygy-Gorath
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:14 am
#124
DL44s are based on broom-handled mausers. E11s are based on the Sterling Mk4s. There are other standard-issue Imperial weapons based on the MG-32 and MG-42s. All of these are archaic (by modern, real world standards) weapons—so why is it unreasonable to base our weapons off of other archaic weapons? As long as we add a bit of technofluff (vibro motors, cryoban generators, et cetera) there's no reason we can't ask for a real-world medieval weapon modified to fit the Star Wars "feel."
Noxferatu wrote:
Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe.
Noxferatu
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:34 am
#125
Soulburner69 wrote:
"Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe."
one thing, mostly all melee weapons in this game are based from medieval weapons. for example the two hand curved sword and a katana, or a long vibro axe and the halberd (or bardiche). so why cant great swords, or katana's, or claymores, or flamberge's "cut it" when most of the weapons that us melee fighters weild are based from them? so a derivitive of the greatsword could be used personally i saw that as the cleaver. but a futureistic flamberge could be a heavy vibro sword, or something related to that? so do not say medieval weapons dont cut it, because we are running into battle with weapons based from them and thus if one doesnt cut it a derivitive of it wouldnt either.
Rather have weapons based on them, like the Vibro Axe, than actually having them.
I don't even want the vibro stuff. I would like as I mentioned a total revamp of our weapons. (still be two handed swords), but witrh energized blades and such. (look at the last parts of my earlier post).
Noxferatu
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:40 am
#126
Syzygy-Gorath wrote:
DL44s are based on broom-handled mausers. E11s are based on the Sterling Mk4s. There are other standard-issue Imperial weapons based on the MG-32 and MG-42s. All of these are archaic (by modern, real world standards) weapons—so why is it unreasonable to base our weapons off of other archaic weapons? As long as we add a bit of technofluff (vibro motors, cryoban generators, et cetera) there's no reason we can't ask for a real-world medieval weapon modified to fit the Star Wars "feel."
Noxferatu wrote:
Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe.
So what mate, you make no point with all this "based on" stuff. They still look futuristic and theu shoot laser beams. And when did I say we coulden't base it upon them, as long as we are swordsmen we have to anyhow, I said "Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe." Read it carefully and you will see I don't want greatswords, katanas or claymores. But a greatsword shaped in a futuristic way, with powergenerators on it to energize the crystalline blade (this is just out of the top of my head) I would love. But I don't want a greatsword from Diablo II.
Look at Destyrs suggestion for an electrisity sword.
And read what I write. The word "based" wasnt even in the post.
Noxferatu
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:25 pm
#127
Yes we are.
Syzygy-Gorath wrote:
Noxferatu wrote:
Syzygy-Gorath wrote:
DL44s are based on broom-handled mausers. E11s are based on the Sterling Mk4s. There are other standard-issue Imperial weapons based on the MG-32 and MG-42s. All of these are archaic (by modern, real world standards) weapons—so why is it unreasonable to base our weapons off of other archaic weapons? As long as we add a bit of technofluff (vibro motors, cryoban generators, et cetera) there's no reason we can't ask for a real-world medieval weapon modified to fit the Star Wars "feel."
Noxferatu wrote:
Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe.
So what mate, you make no point with all this "based on" stuff. They still look futuristic and theu shoot laser beams. And when did I say we coulden't base it upon them, as long as we are swordsmen we have to anyhow, I said "Greatswords or katanas or claymores doesn't cut it in the starwars universe." Read it carefully and you will see I don't want greatswords, katanas or claymores. But a greatsword shaped in a futuristic way, with powergenerators on it to energize the crystalline blade (this is just out of the top of my head) I would love. But I don't want a greatsword from Diablo II.
Look at Destyrs suggestion for an electrisity sword.
And read what I write. The word "based" wasnt even in the post.
Ah. I think we're all arguing the same thing here—at least, I hope noone really wants a 1:1 translation medieval weapon, that'd just be more kinetic. Yuck. So, yeah, with ya on this—Star Wars feel weapons with technofuturistic gadgetry to make them "fit" with plasma-firing pistols and carbines.
But I still like the flamberge as a basis for a new weapon.
However, I would also not like a sword called a "greatsword" .. But rather a "EnergySword" or something.
Syzygy-Gorath
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:10 pm
#128
As long as it looks cool and it's useful in combat (either PvE or PvP, don't care which) they can call it Susan and I'd still use it. After all, I can always have my 'smith name it whatever I want, right?
Noxferatu wrote:
Yes we are.
ToddBlackbird
Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:27 pm
#130
Wait wait wait...I thought we were Swordsman? Notsome sort of Berserker...
Give us some more swords, I say. And let us hold them on our backs.