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Thread: For all those MTKA/MSwords out there please post your thoughts on best combination.
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DCI_Garrison
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:32 pm
#1
My friend and I just finished mastering out TKA and Swords and now have the decision of weapon to use. Powerhammer with high damage and horrible action, or Knucks of Katarn with good dmg and great action. Also another topic of debate is to use Center of Being and take less damage or use Beserk and deal more damage. Please post back with the combination that each of you think will best suit us in the game.
causerofdiscontent
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:52 pm
#2
I use a hammer myself. I prefer the damage and deal with the high SAC. Also, Beserk doesnt work. COB is a must to be a melee tanker.
DCI_Garrison
Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:00 pm
#3
Beserk doesnt work? That is odd last night i started going back and forth and it seemed i was doing much more dmg with beserk but it may have been just because i swithed to the Knucks and I did not have anything to offset SAC from hammer maybe my DPS was higher with Knucks and I just believed it to be the beserk was helping me, why is it broke and what should it do if it is doing nothing.
causerofdiscontent
Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:04 pm
#4
When you were fight. Was it multiple persons?
I'll rephrase, Beserk isnt really broken but in a pvp fight it doesnt help. Here is why: As a melee tanker, your one of the first to be attacked unless your very good with excellent armor or BE clothes. That means multiple attacks from multiple opponents. COB will keep you alive while you and your group work on eliminating the opposition. Beserk may give you a slight advantage, and my tests only seem to show a slight advantage, you cant use that advantage when your incapped.
DCI_Garrison
Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:12 pm
#5
Ok that helps me, I only PvE, and I am with other guildies when fighting, I didnt need COB as much with others taunting when i took any real dmg and then I taunted likewise when they started getting hit harder. I guess it just seemed like we were doing more dmg with the Beserk, I will do some more tests with that tonight, now about the Knucks vs PH, how much thought should I put into my Knucks having higher DPS with the speed slice i have on it vs the higher dmg hit that i get when using PH. If i am hitting for 1100 with Knucks very quickly and 1600 with PH much slower do I stay with the knucks or go for the big shot with the PH?
quesar
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:18 pm
#6
If you put a SAC pup on the hammer you might like it better. Im TKM/Mswords and i dont have ROTW and im too cheap to buy the knuckles. but i think i would still stay with the hammer.
WineGuyJr
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:18 am
#8
A Power Hammer doesn't have to have a horrible SAC. They can be made with SACs of 82 which isn't far off the Katarn Knuckers thingy. I won't say its easy or cheap, but its quite possible to get a Power Hammer with an unsliced, unpupped damage of 470-1000 and a SAC of 82. That should out-damage the katarn weapon even given the speed difference (which really won't be that much when its all said and done), and given that it can do a lot more damage per hit it will be a lot easier on your Action bar.
I won't go into the details here since there are plenty of other posts about what the best Power Hammer stats would be or what's possible. But just know that the SAC difference doesn't have to be huge (and the damage difference will be).
In any event, good luck.
Led_Zinum
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:11 am
#9
i like the NK executer. After a damage slice, mine is only a mac 929 with 90 sac . With a 25% SAC p/up it down to 67.
And for berserk, I like to use it when i can, be careful when your running your COB macro as you can't COb if in berserk.
WDJ
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:58 am
#10
i have tkm but i suggest you just get x1xx tka for the cob and then get a phat set of armour. Get 4xx4 doc for the heals and buffs and then mix and match what you prefer of the other melee profs, because its up to you what temp suits your style. but 4xx4 doc and imp cob are recommended abilities!
BioEngine
Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:28 am
#11
I just finished a loot run on my 'Hammer Brother character. MSwords / TKM / Medic 0240 / 1000 Pikeman. Took out 8 NS Sentinels without taking more than half of my health in damage. Kept the Improved CoB up, used KD whenever I thought I could again successfully and while they were KD'd I equipped my hammer and did a crit attack, then unequipped and went back to melee hit with no weapon. My defense was about 10 points higher unarmed which is why I went with that. Very slow, but they were doing less than 200 points of damage through the whole time. I had to keep applying state recoveries which was annoying, but since I knew that 25 meters for their CL 85 was just enough to pull them without aggroing the others who were outside of that distance I didn't have to face more than one. The area KD in Pikeman is just for if I get in over my head, which helped me take out 3 NS Initiates and 2 NS's at CL 77 single-handedly at the same time.
quesar
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:50 am
#12
FWIW on the powerhammers. i picked up a powerhammer off the bazaar at the MO on dant (Kauri server) with max dmg of 97 and min of around 400. good speed but a high sac for 15000. pretty cheap imho.
Ten-96
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:22 pm
#13
I have a Power Hammer, but I never use it. I always use either the N-K Executer or the Scythe Blade
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