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Thread: Swordsman sux for pvp now!!!

Desecrater
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:16 am
#1

Ok, my swordsman is done up well, a nice lil hybrid of charcters. He is next to impossible to knockdown, has a nice 20m knockdown attack, coupled with a 20 second delay. He is still pretty good in PVE, but kiss PVP good by. I decided to make this guy as a way to be good at pvp without jumping on the Riflemen, Combat Medic, Charge Shot bandwagon everyone else seems to do. I was able to make it work using the 20 second delay and mind bleeds. But now they are totally worthless. I was able to pull a 20, and 90 Mind bleeds on my friend using a 663 dmg hammer. Again I tried and the bleeds ticked for 13 and 87, now tell me. What the hell is around 100 total mind bleed going to do against someone with 3000 mind ?!?! Not a damn thing. This bleed "fix" has got to go. Id rather have them not let us stack bleeds then have them do no PVP dmg at all. Bleeds in PVP are total crap now.



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cheechcheech
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:23 am
#2

I agree. I took up Swordsman for the same reason. Everyone is a TKA/CM/Rifleman Hybrid. We were different. Now, we are pointless. I didnt want to be like everyone else yet still be formidable in PvP. Now, Swordsman are a joke in PvP.



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Vergigorm1990
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:32 am
#3

I have to agree. I enjoyed the shock people got when I pulled out my 3.5spd hammer or my rather exceptional 2 hand curved, and proceeded to kill people. You shrug their crap off and counterattack, get some!


Now...no bleeds.If I'mknocked down or put in a situation where I have shoot back with my master carbineer (I won't go there) so I can have some ranged mitigation while Ichase them down, I'm probably going to lose .


I can still deliver some hurt don't get me wrong, but that's only against the weak and unprepared.
IxussFlamethrowerSpeciali
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:42 am
#4

Is swordsman the only forum where we need 15 different posts to discuss one topic? Every other post is on soling Krayts, Bleed Nerf, or the Scythe.


Not to mention that I totally disagee that we "suck" now. The only things that kill me are rifleman and CM's, both of which should be fixed soon. Its true our bleeds are not nearly as good, Head Hits still demolish your opponents mind, Two Hand 3 also works wonders if you want to risk hitting a random pool.


Two weapons have been put in (Jabba's Quest Axe and Scythe) that are exclusive to our class and seem to be very good.


I for one am not dropping this class, especially when it is probabl that we will atleast see a boost in Melee and Ranged Defense (Musician and Dancer get more ranged and melee defense from the master box than we do for gods sake )



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IxussFlamethrowerSpeciali
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:42 am
#5

Is swordsman the only forum where we need 15 different posts to discuss one topic? Every other post is on soling Krayts, Bleed Nerf, or the Scythe.


Not to mention that I totally disagee that we "suck" now. The only things that kill me are rifleman and CM's, both of which should be fixed soon. Its true our bleeds are not nearly as good, Head Hits still demolish your opponents mind, Two Hand 3 also works wonders if you want to risk hitting a random pool.


Two weapons have been put in (Jabba's Quest Axe and Scythe) that are exclusive to our class and seem to be very good.


I for one am not dropping this class, especially when it is probabl that we will atleast see a boost in Melee and Ranged Defense (Musician and Dancer get more ranged and melee defense from the master box than we do for gods sake )



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Desecrater
Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:45 pm
#6

I didnt get a scythe, just the axe. Is it random which?



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"The only thing you can count on in SWG is that Desecraters are 100% guaranteed to get the nerf with every new patch."

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evetsleep
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:00 pm
#7

The axe comes from Jabba's quest..the Scythe is a quest in itself that from what I have heard should be very tough to get.




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Bolto
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:09 pm
#8

Actually it is easy cuz you don't actually have to kill the Krayt to get the schematic.
Sundracon
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:30 am
#9

since defense stacked templatesshowed up swordsman have sucked for PvP. trying to hit someone with 150+ melee defense, 200 ranged defense and 180 dodge is nigh impossible. you either need to be a TKM or a master rifleman with +25 to accuracy to hit them. not to mention the 400 dmg jawa's on bloodfin and the CM,his name is Tsunamikata,with 600 to 700 dmg area poisions


bleeds gave usa chance since the bleeds were almost as bad as a CM's poision, not anymore. only thing the bleeds are good for now is giving people alot of wounds. I gave up using my PH to hit anyone in PvP a while ago. my 2hand sword doesn't even hit anyone now.


still not droping Swordsman, even though ever melee class is better then us now. tkm and fencer are faster and more accurate, plus fencers have a stun weapon. pikemen get tons of uber looted weapons from nightsisters, so they hit harder and faster then us now.


the stats on the scythe had better be damn good


Bezzler
EpYoNTiamat
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:40 am
#10






Sundracon wrote:

since defense stacked templatesshowed up swordsman have sucked for PvP. trying to hit someone with 150+ melee defense, 200 ranged defense and 180 dodge is nigh impossible. you either need to be a TKM or a master rifleman with +25 to accuracy to hit them. not to mention the 400 dmg jawa's on bloodfin and the CM,his name is Tsunamikata,with 600 to 700 dmg area poisions


bleeds gave usa chance since the bleeds were almost as bad as a CM's poision, not anymore. only thing the bleeds are good for now is giving people alot of wounds. I gave up using my PH to hit anyone in PvP a while ago. my 2hand sword doesn't even hit anyone now.


still not droping Swordsman, even though ever melee class is better then us now. tkm and fencer are faster and more accurate, plus fencers have a stun weapon. pikemen get tons of uber looted weapons from nightsisters, so they hit harder and faster then us now.


the stats on the scythe had better be damn good


Bezzler






Hit them with intimidate...they are much easier to hit(it at least negates dodge/block/counter)



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Sundracon
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:51 am
#11

i thought stun did that not intimadate. must try that tomorrow
Equatorsm
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:45 pm
#12

Uhh... Newsflash... Swordsman always sucked for PvP.



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Aunna
Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:17 pm
#13


Hmmm....


I dunno what u guys are talkin about when you say swordsman suck at pvp...


Today i took on 5 Rebs by myself


I was buffed, had moun and fishak and armor


I killed 5 of them (2 Master Commandos,1 master doc, 1 Master TKA not sure the others)...then more came and i lasted a little while longer, took 7 to stop me....


I kill people in 2 hits with me 627 ph ....we arent gimp...get some skill tape...get some df mods from other classes and most of all GET MASTER BRAWLER lol...it helps


u need to use all of your abilities to win against those types of numbers...


People who are really good at pvp arent just 1 combat class..IMHO u need to dabble a little to stay competitive and get great abilities from other classes aswell...i cant tell u how many times force of will has saved my ass.


And this stuff about the bleeds....u can kill your enemy x100 as fast without it...who wants to wait 15 sec for a bleed...just kill the guy!! lol


Bleeds were great in PvE, but we can do without it...everyone else is...its not like we are the ONLY ones



I use 2h swords as my main weapon...i LOVE it and would never drop it


/salute to the swordsman


/bow







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