Swordsman Archive

As promised.

My counterattack is currently 160 with Master Carbineer and 0/4/2/4 sword.

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23498

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23497

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23501

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23496

I am loving counterattack like you wouldn't believe.

Only thing I love more is swordsman. Wow does this profession kick. Check this out.(FYI: I did thiswith 70% resist comp, full buff set, muon gold, flameout (1750 to health drink) tatooine sunburn and 2 glazed glucose pates.)

Two Force-Trained Archaists vs. Swords(wo)man:

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23507

Force Weaken (hits mostly health, like force choke)

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23508

Guess who won?

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23509

Combat Log

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23511

Combat Log 2

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=23512

As you can see when the NPC Force guys use AOE attacks they hit one another. But what killed them was 2 mind bleeds on each and then chop, chop to the head, and there missing me over and over. Torrent of Enmity and Torrent of Hatred - look at the damage they would have dealt if they'd connected.

Swordsman is the most fun prof I've done so far. I wish I'd known melee was this fun, I would've done it months ago.

Without double mind bleeds and counterattacks there's no way I could have done this.

-- Ypi

As you go up the swordsmen tree can you tell me how often a hit gets through without it being a miss or counter attack. I have heard that they do not stack over a certain point. As a master swordsmen/master brawler, about 10-30% of attacks were successful hits on me. I had many encounters where I didn't get hit at all, but many of those were in shorter fights, as was anything above 30%. That was similar to when I had 80 ranged and 100'ish melee defence, before COB and counter attack were added. IF you can get a lot of fights in where the hits are lower than 10% on long fights, I can see an argument for them stacking. But right now, I wonder if it caps at a point. Thx!

Yep, I actually have 675 sword xp I'm about to train and once I hit master I'll post those.

Oh yeah, in this fight I forgot all about even trying COB. **edit** ranged habits.

-- Ypi

>Oh yeah, in this fight I forgot all about even trying COB. **edit** ranged habits.

Lol, CoB will make you counterattack way more.

I'll definately want to duel you once we're both done with our specs. Would be cool to see how they compare.

Swordsman and Carbineer counterattack mods stack, like a Fencer/Pistoleer (dodge)and Rifleman/Pikeman combo (block)............so once I get get the full line of Counter in Carbineer I'll be lov'n life too

this sounds great...but i am confused. when i go to http://swgcb.yogn.net/swg-cb.phpand put in your template Ypiana: Master Carbineer and 0/4/2/4 sword, and then i review the mods, it shows counterattack at +25

how are you up to +160? is the SWG character builder out of whack?

even when i put in Master Carbineer/Master Swordsman the counterattack only shows +45...

thanks for all your shared info! please let me know why i can't seem to get the skill mods to get anywhere near +160

every block in the counter line of the Cabineer is actually +20 counter..............

jabjowie, the template maker thing is wacked out. Some of them are really out of date, i have yet to find one where fencer gets the increased melee defense added in... anyway, i have 60 counterattack and i have only 0433 in swordsman. I think master swordsman gets around 85 counterattack.. but ithinkim wrong.

If the melee defense+counterattack caps then that sucks... because my template gives me tons of melee defense, hopefully it wont be wasted.

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Seawolvz25 wrote:
every block in the counter line of the Cabineer is actually +20 counter..............

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ohhh, so the SWG character builderis wrong! it shows +5 for every block...hehe,oops, shows how much i look at mymods in-game...iam alomost done with counterinsurgency IV right now. hmmm, wonder how wrong that thing is on all the other blocks...

thanks for the answer! woo hoo, maybe i should follow Ypiana's lead a bit (except for the whole imp thing)

having a lot of counter is nice, but try seeing a Fencer with Pistoleer dodging mods stacked.............OMG! He bobs and weaves so much you think hes 1/2 retarded and 1/2 Jackie Chan.......

I too am Master Carbineer andI am currently 0 0 2 3 in swordsman. I usually do a action1 bleed and action2 bleed from carbine, then switch to PowerHammer and double Mind bleed. If I dont win the fight, the other person is still seriously facked. YEAH!

I cant wait to Master Swordsman. I already feel like I counterattack a bunch with my +105 just from Carbineer.

But you are correct that it doesnt compare to Fencer/Pistoleer dodge. Its like they are break dancing while you try to hit em.

Also, looking at all your logs..... it seems you really like Scalp Slam. Every attack u did was that! lol