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Thread: Need Advice On a 100% PvE Template

YamadaMan
Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:40 am
#1

Hi guys, I'm currently building a new template and I was wondering a few things

I'm hesitating betweed 2 ones actually involving MHS, this will be 100% PVE as I have already a 100% PvP toon
here are my points:

1 - Not dropping master smuggler as it's my source of income, since I opened the shop I never had to grind missions for cash, so no way I'm dropping it.
2 - I don't really care about speed cap, all I want is to be able to kill tough stuff efficiently


so the first one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Medic 4430

the second one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Master Brawler
Medic 0100


so what are pros and cons on those.
also, I had mastered pikeman and it was incredibly efficient for PvE, so basically I'm kinda hesitating between trying MHS or going back pikeman, same, what are the pros and cons. why would I go MHS instead of Pikeman ?


PS: don't answer to me like I'm a noob, it's almost one year I play the game, MHS being the only combat profession I didn't mastered



"This morning, the team made a decision to delay the Smuggler profession revamp to Publish 11." TH

Loot Shop (Painting, CAs etc...) Coronet/junction (860 -4724)
-- Kojirou Sasaki - Emperor's Eye (Black Epsilon Ace)
-- Chieko - Master StyleSmith (Master Tailor)
-- Aki'xianghua - Twilek Thug (Master of the LongPole - Rarities Collector)
Sipura
Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:44 am
#2






YamadaMan wrote:
Hi guys, I'm currently building a new template and I was wondering a few things

I'm hesitating betweed 2 ones actually involving MHS, this will be 100% PVE as I have already a 100% PvP toon
here are my points:

1 - Not dropping master smuggler as it's my source of income, since I opened the shop I never had to grind missions for cash, so no way I'm dropping it.
2 - I don't really care about speed cap, all I want is to be able to kill tough stuff efficiently


so the first one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Medic 4430

the second one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Master Brawler
Medic 0100


so what are pros and cons on those.
also, I had mastered pikeman and it was incredibly efficient for PvE, so basically I'm kinda hesitating between trying MHS or going back pikeman, same, what are the pros and cons. why would I go MHS instead of Pikeman ?


PS: don't answer to me like I'm a noob, it's almost one year I play the game, MHS being the only combat profession I didn't mastered





go with the first one but adjust your medic to Medic 3440 that way you can use meduse 40 stim E currently on Bria I make 1113 power meduse 40 Stim E and they work wonders not to mention fighting elders First Aid is a must



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YamadaMan
Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:47 am
#3

allright.. Imma wait for some other inputs but all of this make sense.

unfortunately I'm not on bria but eclipse, but the servers being quite similar in terms of community/goods, I think I'll find decent stims here too.



"This morning, the team made a decision to delay the Smuggler profession revamp to Publish 11." TH

Loot Shop (Painting, CAs etc...) Coronet/junction (860 -4724)
-- Kojirou Sasaki - Emperor's Eye (Black Epsilon Ace)
-- Chieko - Master StyleSmith (Master Tailor)
-- Aki'xianghua - Twilek Thug (Master of the LongPole - Rarities Collector)
Alstoned
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:09 am
#4


so the first one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Medic 4430 CHANGE TO 2-3-4-0 so you can heal bleeds and use d or e stims

the second one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Master Brawler
Medic 0100 This one is nice to but would be alittle more effective with better heals, but with feign death you could do well.


This is a tough call I myself like the second one better. Reason being you get intimidate 2, +5 to your melee speed and some better defense(master brawler). You don't really have alot of state defenses woth these templates either that could be a potential problem with dizzzy/kd.


I hope this helps and if you have any more questions feels free.

Message Edited by Alstoned on 09-24-2004 07:11 AM



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YamadaMan
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:00 am
#5



Alstoned wrote:
so the first one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Medic 4430 CHANGE TO 2-3-4-0 so you can heal bleeds and use d or e stims

the second one would be
Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Master Brawler
Medic 0100 This one is nice to but would be alittle more effective with better heals, but with feign death you could do well.

This is a tough call I myself like the second one better. Reason being you get intimidate 2, +5 to your melee speed and some better defense(master brawler). You don't really have alot of state defenses woth these templates either that could be a potential problem with dizzzy/kd.

I hope this helps and if you have any more questions feels free.

Message Edited by Alstoned on 09-24-2004 07:11 AM





it helps alot thank you, well as that toon will be a 100% PVE one, I think I'll be ok against dizzy/KD with food only (KD food)

and yeap, I'm not going to drop master smuggler, so it's kinda tricky, but I have feign death wich is quite helpfull in tricky situations.



"This morning, the team made a decision to delay the Smuggler profession revamp to Publish 11." TH

Loot Shop (Painting, CAs etc...) Coronet/junction (860 -4724)
-- Kojirou Sasaki - Emperor's Eye (Black Epsilon Ace)
-- Chieko - Master StyleSmith (Master Tailor)
-- Aki'xianghua - Twilek Thug (Master of the LongPole - Rarities Collector)
Alstoned
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:26 am
#6

I dropped smuggler for my template, hardest decision I had to make in this game to date. Much more money to be made hunting elders and krayt then selling smuggla goods.



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YamadaMan
Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:21 pm
#7



Alstoned wrote:
I dropped smuggler for my template, hardest decision I had to make in this game to date. Much more money to be made hunting elders and krayt then selling smuggla goods.




depends, I got my shop 900m from coronet starport, I'm one of the only selling sliced loot made weapons and regular sliced weapons for decent price.

I'm not a grinder, so if I kill an elder, I won't kill two the same day, and for elder hunting to worth it I bet you have to kill alot everyday, while selling pre sliced geoblasters (only, wich is not the case) can easily make your week if you get lucky enough with your slices.

my alt being MWS, I made a factory run of 5 geoblasters, got 4 damage slices, all over 28%, and they all sold in 2 or 3 days, while T21s sell easy as well as krayt scatters or powerhammers.

not to mention that I sell loot and BE clothing as well as smuggler supplies... I'm not very rich, but it's confortable enough to do whatever I want whenever I want.

my PvE template is to occasionnaly stock up my loots vendor, that's it

I'm not dropping smuggler, I'm so much enjoying to see millions credits rush into my bank account everytime I log in



"This morning, the team made a decision to delay the Smuggler profession revamp to Publish 11." TH

Loot Shop (Painting, CAs etc...) Coronet/junction (860 -4724)
-- Kojirou Sasaki - Emperor's Eye (Black Epsilon Ace)
-- Chieko - Master StyleSmith (Master Tailor)
-- Aki'xianghua - Twilek Thug (Master of the LongPole - Rarities Collector)
Slestak
Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:04 pm
#8

Don't know why people hate it..but I love my template for PvE


Master Swords

TKA 4,0,0,4

Master Rifleman

Medic 1,0,0,0


Of course I'm capped with Speed, Accuracy for both Rifle and Swords...as well as capped with CounterAttack and Block....both Ranged and Melee Migration III's and both Ranged/Melee Defense are just over +125 ...... I have no problem with the Sisters, Krayts, Nyax, well can take out pretty much anything.....plus all the different damage types, Kinetic, Blast, Energy, Stun, Acid, and Cold...



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elffzero
Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:29 pm
#9

Hmm.. not to be nit picky, but if you want a 100% PVE template, then smuggler isn't really a part of that. PVE really breaks down into 2 parts: Damage output & Damage mitigation. You want the highest possible ability at both of these.


For damage output, (if you want to keep smuggler) you're going to get master swordsman & either speed tapes, the FS melee speed line or A quick scythe. Unless you have tapes or FS speed you'll need a scythe for big damage.


For defense, state defense doesnt really matter in PVE; so thats out. Melee/ranged defense does matter if you are fighting low & medium level mobs. by that I mean anythin under 15K Ham for the most part. It makes a considerable difference in the amount of hits your receive and the longevity of your armor. But then again, thats only if you have alot. 100+ish. which you also don't have room for. so nix that. which leaves you with 2 choices. Medic or Meditation. or both.


I recommend either


Master swords

Master smuggler

TKA 4-0-0-0

Medic 2-3-0-0


or


Master Swords

Master Smuggler

Medic 2-1-0-0

Scout 4-0-0-0


or your second choice, which I would personally choose out of the two. I am very partial to Master Brawler, I've been extremely dissapointed everytime I drop it for something fancy.


Master Swords
Master Smuggler
Master Brawler
Medic 0100



Lasty should you choose to drop Master Smuggler, please check any of the other fine template threads here for alternate choices. I don't hunt for cash too often, but I make bucketloads of it when I do. A good swordsman can make plenty of money doing solo missions or hunting for nightsister loot.



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Toguro
Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:02 pm
#10

why do PvE templates never include ranger? or even scout???

hkyplyr31
Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:33 pm
#11

drop all ranged profs... go to master fencer, brawler, 2h with some medic... go down ot the gio cave for cash, i make about 400k a day in loot money. and i loot a sonic blaster schematic about once a week (worth about 2 mill on starsider).








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YamadaMan
Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:20 pm
#12



hkyplyr31 wrote:
drop all ranged profs... go to master fencer, brawler, 2h with some medic... go down ot the gio cave for cash, i make about 400k a day in loot money. and i loot a sonic blaster schematic about once a week (worth about 2 mill on starsider).





I'm not dropping smuggler, running my sliced weapon shop lets me make a minimum of 700k/day, average of 1.2/1.5M, and over 3M for good days.

and that without doing anything else than stocking the vendors wich takes maybe 1 hour a week...

then I have all the time I want to hunt loots in addition to my shop's income.

isn't the life beautiful ?



"This morning, the team made a decision to delay the Smuggler profession revamp to Publish 11." TH

Loot Shop (Painting, CAs etc...) Coronet/junction (860 -4724)
-- Kojirou Sasaki - Emperor's Eye (Black Epsilon Ace)
-- Chieko - Master StyleSmith (Master Tailor)
-- Aki'xianghua - Twilek Thug (Master of the LongPole - Rarities Collector)
minimanic
Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:53 am
#13

I am a Master Doc working on master Swords. Yesterday against better judgement I went with some guildies to hunt NS.


I thought I would die quickly. As it works out.....I am only novice swords and I can solo NS protectors and Elders.!


3.9 speed PH 489 max damage. Cure state packs for dizzy and Blind. And some KD food. It took a while but I still beat them.


So my PvE template is Master Doc/Master Swords. - I figure If i can solo elders at novice Swordsman they will be even easier at Master!




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