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Thread: We need duel wield.

Murphy_McManus
Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:21 am
#1

at brawler level were described as 2 ahnded 1-4, so why cant we use 2 sowrds/axes at master lvls?


im thinking that the cert for such things shoud be at master sword defense and offense (making them much more worthwhile to get)

at master sword offense- Twin axes, axes are traditionally a much more offensive weapon and would fit well here

at master sword defence- twin swords, not purely defensive btu still makes sense


what the weapons are- weaponsmiths can have a new draft schematic for soemthing stacking 2 identical 1 handed swords/batons the new weapon would then appear as one squar ein your inventory and when equiped both wepaons will be in your hands



as far as combat goes, id suggest lowering accuracy modifiers a little more, but keeping DPS fairly high possibly even increasing minimum damage to make it more desirable


all in all id think this would both look and be pretty cool


thoughts?



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FtB
Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:21 am
#2

You mean dual wield?

There was a 24357944857 page thread about this a couple months back, aswell as countless others. I'll see if I can find some links.

In my opinion a Swordsman is a master of heavy weapons that require two hands to wield. So dual wielding isnt really our department. If it goes to anyone it should be Fencer.

Would be kinda cool if dual wield could be an Elite-Hybrid Brawler profession or something similar though.

Message Edited by FtB on 03-15-2004 04:21 AM



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DarkMab
Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:33 am
#3

2 swords is a bad idea, swords are really big and heavy, your accuracy would be really horible, i mean worse then -70 or something, plus i think defence should be lowered while weilding2 weaponsand counterattck would all but be unavailable to you,


not even conan the barbarian had 2 swords at once, and he is in definition THE heavy swordsman




but 2 lightsabers yes


2 pistols yes


or 2 knives or(short swords) yes


would be practicle






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Noxferatu
Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:02 am
#4

Because it's two-handed as in we need two arms to be able to swing our weapons.. Geez, how can that be so hard to understand. HEAVY Swordsman, get it? Does HEAVY sound like something featherlight to you?



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DarthFuse
Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:50 am
#5

Well it's a yes and no, it all depends on your definition of two handed. With those of you who say we are Heavy swordsmen, no doubt you are thinking of extremely large swords (ex) claymore, Battle Axes. etc. For those of you who think we should have them, are thinking about samurai blades since they did often carry two swords, and sometimes used both of them at the same time. It's all on how you look at it.
Junsa
Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:24 am
#6

naww i dont think we should have dual weild......

pistoleers definatly, maybe fencers with 2 small swords but not us. 2 hands on the sword/hammer......thats how it should be.



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Noxferatu
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:24 am
#7

I think this is the only game where people haven't understood the meaning of a two-handed sword..



You see, in every other game in existence, it means a big sword which need two hands to wield. It does so in this game too.



Now if you ask me, this should be laid dead once and for all, dualwielding is for lightweapon fighters such as fencer and pistoleer.





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DarkMab
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:35 am
#8




Noxferatu


said


"I think this is the only game where people haven't understood the meaning of a two-handed sword..



You see, in every other game in existence, it means a big sword which need two hands to wield. It does so in this game too.



Now if you ask me, this should be laid dead once and for all, dualwielding is for lightweapon fighters such as fencer and pistoleer."









quoted for effect





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ImpRentboy
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:48 am
#9

Yes, i think Nox said it the best.


Usually, to 'normal' people, 'two-handed' means that u need 2 hands to wield the weapon.


How people come to the conclusion that 2-handed means bearer of 2 weapons one in each hand i dont know.


Gorecki
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:54 am
#10

Some pro and con's...




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MasterTexiria
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:56 am
#11

easy those ppl have played too much Diablo 2



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Soulburner69
Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:15 pm
#12


"not even conan the barbarian had 2 swords at once, and he is in definition THE heavy swordsman"


actually in one of the movies (i think it was the second one) he had a axe, and his customary sword both, he didnt use both for long, but he did use two weapons.



but the way i see dual weilding weapons, is that it should have to be a different class completely maybe an elite elite class, or a hybrid of one handed and two handed in brawler (possibly even master brawler required) but that is IF they ever decide to put in dual weilding.


dual weilding is a balance between offense, and defense, you use one weapon to block, and the other to attack, and a person would have to be very balanced, and skilled with using both hands. fencing is more of a technique using one hand for your weapon, and the other for balance. and only the most skilled fencers would use both a rapier and a dirk (a short dagger like weapon) and the people that used a full size weapon in each hand were nearly unheard of.




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Noxferatu
Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:17 pm
#13

MasterTrexia: Please show me the game where a "two-handed sword" is a sword you can wield with one arm.




And again, I lay emphasis on "HEAVY" Swordsman...





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