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Thread: MSwords/Pike 4440?

AriasImmortal
Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:35 pm
#1

Anyone out there who's done both MSwords/Doc 4004/Fencer 0404/TK 0300 and MSwords/Pike 4440/Doc 4004? I wanna know what the comparison between the two is before I try the 2nd one. Also, any pros and cons on the latter template would be great.



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FunLovinCriminal
Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:59 am
#2

Only thing I can see wrong with that is the lack of Improved Center of Being. That is a lifesaver, although I am biased towards it . Other than that you should have some really nice damage output.



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AriasImmortal
Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:49 pm
#3



FunLovinCriminal wrote:
Only thing I can see wrong with that is the lack of Improved Center of Being. That is a lifesaver, although I am biased towards it . Other than that you should have some really nice damage output.




I'm hoping that Improved Warcry and intimidate will make up for the difference between regular CoB and imp CoB.



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trifidac
Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:54 pm
#4



AriasImmortal wrote:


FunLovinCriminal wrote:
Only thing I can see wrong with that is the lack of Improved Center of Being. That is a lifesaver, although I am biased towards it . Other than that you should have some really nice damage output.




I'm hoping that Improved Warcry and intimidate will make up for the difference between regular CoB and imp CoB.


Intimidate+stun+flurry+COB works well then of course warcry to slow them down.




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Akuma-Paragon
Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:01 pm
#5


its almost too many things to have to worry about though. having to intimidate/warcry every 20 seconds and such. also warcry only lands like 1/2 the time, seriously. but its very low cost. still. and youll have to cob every like30 seconds or so? what is the duration of regular cob? its high maintenance.


it could provide good challenge, and usually in my mind challenge equates to fun, but i dunno- it would get annoying.


just pick up tka0100, mswords, pike 0040, doc 4004, mbrawleror if you have a few really good doc buddies who can buff you drop the buff line and pick up either the first or second line of pikes.... its a hard decision. on one hand you get +10 speed and an area knockdown while on the other you get +40 accuracy and an area attack.whatever you want i guess.


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AriasImmortal
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:10 pm
#6

I think the duration on CoB is the same. A good buddy of mine is MPikes/Swords 0444/Doc 4004, and he does just fine in PvP, though I think I realized what the difference in PvP is, between warcry/intim and imp CoB...

Imp CoB is a self buff, so it effects all targets. It's probably more effective than warcry/intim when facing multiple adversaries. Post-CU, however, if you're being targeted and hit by 3 or more people, you're probably dead anyways (even more so once they fix the ruby bliel bug). Warcry/intim is just as effective, if not more so, in 1v1 combat I think. My friend (temp above) actually has a longer effectiveness in duels and 1v1 than I did with MSwords/Doc 4004/Fencer 0404/TK 0200, though I did better overall due to my better damage.

What I'm really hoping for is a molding of both templates strengths. But I've yet to test it out, so we'll see.



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belder
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:16 pm
#7

that temp sounds intresting....can ya keep us updated?



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belder
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:25 pm
#8

Mpike/swords xx41/doc4xx4/tkx1xx doesnt look to bad



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AriasImmortal
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:32 pm
#9



belder wrote:
that temp sounds intresting....can ya keep us updated?




Dunno when I'm gonna get to try it out, as I'm pretty busy during the week IRL. Hopefully tomorrow night though, and I will let ya know.



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belder
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:34 pm
#10

i might try this :
"ATM, im mswords/tkx1x1/doc 4xx4/fencer xx44. I am considering samaurijacks temp, slightly modded
Mpike/swords xx4x/tk1xx/doc4xx4/m brawler . I PvP mostly, and only PvE i do really is GDK."

tell me what you think



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trifidac
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:35 pm
#11

I just started PVPing tonight for the first time with my melee character, template is master pikeman, swordsman 0444, doctor 4004 and medic 4240 for that extra bacta toss ability. I lasted MUCH longer than I expected especially when I had 2 swordsman and 3 Jedi chasing me around in circles while I warcry everyone and intimidate key targets then AOE KD everyone is such a great feeling- it took 7 people to take me down and I was only wearing the 5660 rating blue/white Katarn armor and a 730-1234 puped vibrolance.




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belder
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:37 pm
#12



trifidac wrote:
I just started PVPing tonight for the first time with my melee character, template is master pikeman, swordsman 0444, doctor 4004 and medic 4240 for that extra bacta toss ability. I lasted MUCH longer than I expected especially when I had 2 swordsman and 3 Jedi chasing me around in circles while I warcry everyone and intimidate key targets then AOE KD everyone is such a great feeling- it took 7 people to take me down and I was only wearing the 5660 rating blue/white Katarn armor and a 730-1234 puped vibrolance.




nice lol



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AriasImmortal
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:43 pm
#13



trifidac wrote:
I just started PVPing tonight for the first time with my melee character, template is master pikeman, swordsman 0444, doctor 4004 and medic 4240 for that extra bacta toss ability. I lasted MUCH longer than I expected especially when I had 2 swordsman and 3 Jedi chasing me around in circles while I warcry everyone and intimidate key targets then AOE KD everyone is such a great feeling- it took 7 people to take me down and I was only wearing the 5660 rating blue/white Katarn armor and a 730-1234 puped vibrolance.





Yeah, my friend with that temp is great in terms of survivability. Though I can still pound him in to the ground

While I can tank a 3+ people easily enough with my old template, I'm usually too busy healing to do anything back. Wish warcry was like it was pre-CU (a daze effect now, like startle shot), because then I'd be owning people hardcore style. Daze one, kill the other, rinse, repeat.



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