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Thread: Elder question
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Galjoss
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:46 am
#1
I should be getting my anti decay kit soon and was wondering what to us it on, I dont have any great powwerhammers or rifles but am speed capped with both rifles and swords so have a fairly decent damage output rate, The only bar that ever seems to get me killed when fighting eldersis my health barso I was thinking of using my antidecay kit on a 90% composite chest plate. What i was wondering is this, will better armour reduce the damage I take in through bleeds as these are what seem to cause me the most trouble? if not then I will probably be better buying a decent damagepowerhammer and putting on that instead.
Cheers
Galjoss.
sanct_squadleader
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:01 am
#2
well with the cu coming out soon your 90 base armor is gonna be nerfed to hell 
also if you can take an elder without being a doc than props to ya.
also if you can take an elder without being a doc than props to ya.
teamdoa
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:49 am
#3
Just get medic so you can heal bleeds, umm, think you need 2xxx for bleed heals.
As for the ADK, get yourself a good hammer, and use it on that for now.
Worst thing with Elders are of course bleeds, but it doesnt cost many skill points to get around that problem. The main thing that can catch you out is the ole dizzy, posture change or knockdown. Use foods to negate this, and you should be ok until the CURB hits I guess.
Message Edited by teamdoa on 04-14-2005 01:50 PM
MiddleOfNowhere
Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:39 am
#4
A 90% chestplate won't save you from an Elder bleed. Medic is the way to go for now (After CURB you will need to go to Doctor to cure bleeds, but then nobody will soloing Elders anymore so its kinda a moot point).
You need 2000 Medic to cure bleeds but in my experience if an Elder stacks a couple of bleeds in quick succession you will not be able to heal them fast enough. I currently have 4000 Medic in my template can heal bleeds handily and get 700-1000 points a heal off a Stim-B
I would recommend buying yourself a good (not nessessarily uber) PH and ADK that. You will be able to finish things off faster and use powerupswithout worrying about excessive decay. Might as well have some fun while things last...
Heorot
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:19 pm
#5
Galjoss wrote:So armour doesnt affect the strength of bleeds inflicted on you? I dont have enough skill points for medic 2000, I agree with the idea of getting a great power hammer but there not that hard to find, i was just thinking that a chestplate may actually increase my damage output more than a good but not great powerhammer as I would spend less time healing, when i can find a really good powerhammer I doubt I will be bothered about loosing the chestplate to get the kit back.
to hunt elders you absolutely need medic 2000 at the least. If you're speed capped, you could probably hunt elders just fine with your template being medic 2000 / master swords / master armorsmith / merchant 3004
whats your current template?
dfetch
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:27 pm
#6
Depends on the Elder sometimes. I've noticed that Elders using scythe blades deal nastier damage withHEAVYbleeds. I couldn't solo those, but I can solo other Elders. You pretty much need to be speed capped and you need Medic skills as well.
I've done it with unsliced armor.
Personally, I wouldn't use an ADK on a piece of armor unless you have more than oneADKto spare. But you can always delete the armor if you change your mind.
Message Edited by dfetch on 04-14-2005 03:28 PM
Galjoss
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:28 pm
#7
I kill them regularily without medic 2000 and I'm not looking to change my template and i guess I shouldnt have mentioned elders in the subject, I just want to know if the strength of the bleeds is effected by armour, I know my mind shot doesnt hit armoured enemys as hard as unarmoured enemys but i was wondering if it was true the other way round, and how best to use my ADK while i'm looking for a powerfull power hammer/T21
Heorot
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:30 pm
#8
Galjoss wrote:I kill them regularily without medic 2000 and I'm not looking to change my template and i guess I shouldnt have mentioned elders in the subject, I just want to know if the strength of the bleeds is effected by armour, I know my mind shot doesnt hit armoured enemys as hard as unarmoured enemys but i was wondering if it was true the other way round, and how best to use my ADK while i'm looking for a powerfull power hammer/T21
ok thats cool
i dont thnk it is affected personally
i would recommend adk'ing the hammer first because condition on hammers wears out so quick when you fight elders constantly and 80% comp is pretty cheap
personally i have one a 90% chest and one on my hammer
McRibs
Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:15 pm
#9
PSG FTW!!111!!! No really, a psg will serve you much better imo. Some beneits are not worrying as much about stun batons or other protected resists as well as any pvp that you might encounter an adk'd psg is extremly useful for the ranged kiters,some turrets, and jedi if you buy a new one every day.
Galjoss
Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:23 am
#10
Soarmour doesnt affect the strength of bleeds inflicted on you? I dont have enough skill points for medic 2000, I agree with the idea of getting a great power hammer but there not that hard to find, i was just thinking that a chestplate may actually increase my damage output more than a good but not great powerhammer as I would spend less time healing, when i can find a really good powerhammer I doubt I will be bothered about loosing the chestplate to get the kit back.
Galjoss
Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:57 am
#12
I did think of psg but i had to put some +25 rifle accuracy while moving in a belt, not much use pve, but pvp it makes me the king of kiters, i think the smart choice is probably the armour, but a big f****in hammer just seems so much more fun so i'll probably go for that
Gecko22
Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:16 am
#13
I am 0030 medic and I can solo elders np, 2000 medic is a waste. You can get so much bleed form an elder that it would take you 5mins to cure it all. I use stim Cs and heal myself as needed. I tried the 2040 medic with elders and found I never tried to cure the bleed because it took way to much time and if I ever did get it cured I was just hit with more bleed right away. Instead of that I just keep swinging for the fences and heal myself if I get down to about60%of my health left.
I am master brawler/swordsman/fencer 0002 TK and 0030 medic. I also have a full suit of 90% armor with adks on all pieces and and adk on my PSG and hammer.
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