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Thread: So what is your workaround for HAM costs?

Regman
Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:20 pm
#1

I have faced the fact that a HAM reduction is gonna be a looong wait. So i wondered what you all are doing to offset the high HAM costs of this profession?



I spent 100k and several days coming up with combinations of secondary stat buffing food to raise my str and quickness to offset the power hammer costs pre-patch. Course this is FUBAR now thanks to the last patch.


I even adjusted my stats to go with those combos of food. I actually lowered my str and put more pts in mind since i had a nice combo of food and drink to take care of the loss of pts in the secondaries of Health and Action.


Now you can only have one secondary buff period unless you go with Doc buffs. Even after the doc buff wears off my const and stam dropped to 150 current value. At least the buffs lasted a long time before that happened.


I tried pulling out an old axe but the reduction in HAM of course came with a large reduction in damage.


Seems like one tat sunburn is it for now. Least it keeps the HAM costs down (although the hit to focus means i cannot wear all my armour)


I guess it is a decision between being hit by the Mob without armour or smashing my own skull in with HAM costs.


I am tired or relogging to undo stat loss with this dang secondary stat buff bug.


What are your workarounds?

Dyspare
Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:33 pm
#2

Become a master doctor and buff myself. I don't even notice the ham costs.



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roysterer
Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:53 pm
#3

I use a 30% health cost powerup. It takes the health down to a more reasonable 79, which is not too bad if you have good secondary stats. Of course, I suppose those powerups are hard to find if you can't make them yourself.




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Xol11
Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:59 am
#4

The best solution I have found is 2 Ryshcate + 1 Breath of Heaven. Both of these can be made by master chefs which means you don't have to take any extra professions just for buffs.


Ryshcate gives +200 - +400 to strength, quickness, and focus
Breath of Heaven gives +400 - +800 to strength, quickness, and focus
You can eat 2-3 Ryshcate at a time before you are full (food); it depends on the quality of ingredients used to make it and some random luck, at this time chefs can not experiment filling
You can drink 1 Breath of Heaven(drink); it takes you over half but you still have room for a Tatooine Sunburn if you want.


Once you get to 1558 strength, quickness, or focus you no longer have any HAM costs for doing specials (no matter the special multiplier or the weapon cost). A good chef using relatively good components can easily make a crate of Ryshcate (each crate has 25 stacks of around 8)that gives +300 for 5 minutes and can make a crate of Breath of Heaven (crate has 25 stacks of 8) that gives +600 for 7 minutes.


You can easily get +1200 to your HAM cost stats which means you only need a base of 358 to them in order to reach the 1558 magical number. You will need to take some additonal measures if you want to wear armor and still have no HAM costs, but the closer you get to 1558, the less HAM you use, so if you can only get to 1300 that will still give you incredibly low costs.

Regman
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:51 am
#5

The Ryshcate and BOH was the combo i preferred the most also. The food bug has shot that one to pieces tho atm. Which is why the best single shot now seems to be a tat sunburn due to the large increase in Str and Stamina to cover the red HAM cost and the green hits.


I only hope the food bug is fixed soon so i can go back to the Rysh Breath combo. This was the combo that i migrated stats for in order to wear the armour by taking pts from str and stamina and puting them into the blue stats.


I may look into powerups but since it is true that i cannot make them they are hard to find. I guess they also make a weapon deteriorate faster.


Thanks for the input, I am sure that since HAM seems to be one of the major issues that we hope one day will belowered that this post will help those that wish to play a viable fighter for the time being.


I feel a "Teach a man to fish" metaphor coming on..........

Regman
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:53 am
#6

Oh and thanks for the magic number of 1558. That had eluded me in the past.
Jirimar
Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:00 am
#7

I just use Muon Gold to boost mind stuff, and have really good stim b's in a macro and spam it after every 2 special moves.






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Antilles98
Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:03 pm
#8

I am a doctor, so I guess that is my HAM work around....
jmatt
Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:46 pm
#9

You can easily get +1200 to your HAM cost stats which means you only need a base of 358 to them in order to reach the 1558 magical number.


Okay, maybe I'm a little slow. What's magical about 1558?

Regman
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:38 pm
#10

1558 in a secondary stat like str seems to negate all HAM costs for any weapon we use.



Imagine only taking damage from the bad guy and not your own weap.



Regman
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:39 pm
#11

sorry sort of wrong. to have O ham costs overall i guess you would need 1558 in all three-----Strength Quickness and focus. But str is the #1 issue for me as a powerhammer man.
IagIag
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:28 pm
#12

power ups andnatural food.. i don't use spice but I do have a nice supply ofc's on hand and maxed mind. if it gets out of hand I switch to a cleaver (act cost). Pets can help and Master Doctor buffs are the ultimate.


Xol11
Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:59 pm
#13






Regman wrote:

The Ryshcate and BOH was the combo i preferred the most also. The food bug has shot that one to pieces tho atm. Which is why the best single shot now seems to be a tat sunburn due to the large increase in Str and Stamina to cover the red HAM cost and the green hits.


I only hope the food bug is fixed soon so i can go back to the Rysh Breath combo. This was the combo that i migrated stats for in order to wear the armour by taking pts from str and stamina and puting them into the blue stats.







What food bug are you referring to?

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