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Thread: DPS is nothing, Swordsman is still King of Melee Damage
ZagaSabin wrote:DPS takes into acct the spd of the weapon along with the damage. Why do those VL's and Bats have such higher DPS than us because their faster. Why do carbines have such high DPS because their faster.What matters is the max damage, put a spd pu on your hammer and you are still the king of melee damage. On the battlefield who do you fear more? A carbineer or a Rifleman, dont know about you guys but those rifleman pack a punch and are my first targets I just laugh at the Carbineers and Pistoleers.DPS is the most overrated stat in this game and you people need too realize that.Sure other profession can do their specials faster than me, but we hit harder. Just for example in 15 seconds Fencer goes through his specials and does a total of 3k damage too me before his action is all gone, now in 20 seconds we go through are specials and we do a total of 4.5k damage before our action is gone. These are just numbers not actually tested numbers. With the amount of action we are given we are doing more damage.Just brought this up because it seemed alot of you mentioned that you were dissapointed with our damage compared too Pikeman and Fencer.I cant imagine the output I will be dishing out once they fix ArmorBreak. Well ok i can imagine it
problem for me wasn't the DPS it was the fact that Fencer weapons Post-CU are just as good/Better then our weapons Post-CU with tons of less SAC then our Post-CU made weapons. Not to mention the Weapons they get from Kashyyyk is crazy... they have High Damage High Speed and Low SAC cost... one weapon we get from Kashyyyk that is worth anything has 900 damage 2.5s and a SAC of 95 which is about 100-200 less damage then the best fencer weapon there.
our Power Hammers Post CU have a 133SAC if you do not experiment it down.. and with that you will get about a 1k max Damage power Hammer about 2.7s i want to say. If you experiment that down any you will loss points to spend in damage and it will get lowered by 100-200 points and the SAC to liek 110-120. The Geono loot that i have saved up does not do much in the way of damage to a Power Hammer ether when using a Geono Core Schematic. And Acklay is extremly hard to take down now So dont know about Post-CU hammers yet from it.
The only thing that saves us are our Pre-Cu crafted Acklay Hammers. damage in the 1.1k's speed about 3 and 104SAC.
Most people arn't complaining about the DPS on the Show on the hammers themselves most are complaining about the ToTal DPS we do because of our SAC cost. our action drains faster then any other profession out there at the moment... and melee in general seems to have our Action drain must faster then any range profession as well...
our SAC is to high to the damage we do... and also because all the specials in our profession can be used by every profession it makes our moves in the hands of fencers them the Best DPS overall out there in Melee.
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No, DPS is not pointless. It's the damage you do with the default attack for the weapon. So if you're out of SAC, DPS matters alot.
However if you know how to manage your action then DPS means less and less. But it's not useless. Wound chance... That's useless. DPS isn't entirely. 
I had my friendly local weaponsmith make me up some hilt pups... and believe me i don't leave home without them now..
My geo enhanced powerhammer (500-1090) has a 120 SAC, but with them pup's it went down to 81.. with food buffs i don't ever notice my action cost anymore... and all i use are the high end specials... i'm typically more worried about my health... seeing as i am typically in the middle of the mob!!!
I think everyone is right...DPS is a bit misleading, althoughit is nice to think that you can do xxx DPS and that is high... but with a big damage dealing weapon... and really low SAC.. i can stand there all day and beat 7 shades of S!#T out of things...
enjoy
Doc_Rocker wrote:
My geo enhanced powerhammer (500-1090) has a 120 SAC, but with them pup's it went down to 81.. with food buffs i don't ever notice my action cost anymore... and all i use are the high end specials... i'm typically more worried about my health... seeing as i am typically in the middle of the mob!!!
Doc_Rocker wrote:I had my friendly local weaponsmith make me up some hilt pups... and believe me i don't leave home without them now..
My geo enhanced powerhammer (500-1090) has a 120 SAC, but with them pup's it went down to 81.. with food buffs i don't ever notice my action cost anymore... and all i use are the high end specials... i'm typically more worried about my health... seeing as i am typically in the middle of the mob!!!
I think everyone is right...DPS is a bit misleading, althoughit is nice to think that you can do xxx DPS and that is high... but with a big damage dealing weapon... and really low SAC.. i can stand there all day and beat 7 shades of S!#T out of things...
enjoy
I'm curious how you got ahold of an SAC pup that helps by 33%?
Message Edited by velocity-x on 06-09-2005 10:46 AM
I cant remember what the stats are etc.. i will get the details and post em here tomorrow...
I'll stick up some screenies of pre and post pupped.... best i can do for now..