Swordsman Archive
Thread: Sick of getting knocked down and dizzied
I'm a master swordsman/brawler and 3/3/2/3 TK. Three times recently, a stinking TK has gotten me with KD/dizzy, and I couldn't get up, ever. STUPID!!!! Only one of them was a master. LAME! Aside from the fact that this is one of the stupidest parts of the game, what the heck is best defense against the knockdown/dizzy? Only one time did I even get a mind hit 2 in before I got knocked down. Even then, he just hit on me until I was incapped and I guess had enough mind to finish me off. Once he got a hit on me before I realized we were righting, once my warcry 2 didn't hit and the other I got mind hit 2 off, but it didn't do the job.
Im going back and forth between mastering TK or doing the fencer defense lines or carbineer counter attack/ranged mitigation lines. But sitting on my back while a stupid TK stands over me and I cant get up, I can't take it any more :-)
Pleeeeeeeeeease, help me
Dog - Master Swordsman/Brawler, TK 3323
Just think about the thousands of the lamer pistoleer's. And they go Pistoleer/Fencer. For about +100 defense versus everything.
1. Pity the fencers for having to put up with the "WUT R FSTST WAY 2 FECER!!!one1" Posts.
2. Once they get that kinda defense.... You're better off not watching the screen.
There needs to be SOME way to combat it. short of the going fencer. But if there is a work around, I can't find it. And so the super template will continue to destroy PvP and turn it into Quake.
simple
master swords
master brawler
pick up all the fencer and tk defense you can get
my current build has a 95 resist to kd.
its just if you're willing to spend the points on the right trees.
a swordsman has awsome damage output and area attacks - you just need to rape fencer and tk to get there defense.
Master Swordman Forever ~ Pve wh0r3 
my other sig is a Corovette. 
i always use COB before every fight.
i can't really say it's changed how many times ive been kd/dizzied in pvp.
or even duels.
yah some of us don't have the luxuary of armor 
we got that big 700 extra ham to make up for it
that's what - 1 or 2 hits when you're on the ground?
hahaha
80% kinetic resist composite armor, amigo. If you get off a mind bleed before they KD / dizzy you they just die. Also you can basically live through the dizzy / kd if you have great armor, and once you get back up - hit 'em in the head!
-- Ypi
Like I said, Im master brawler and I have almost all TK lines of defense as well. Still, no luck fighting it off. Also, I don't know what you guys are talking about, but once I'm down, I have yet to get back up. How could you? Can't they keep rehitting you with knock down and dizzy until its all over? It might take a while for them to kill me, but I keep getting the message I'm too dizzy to stand up, I fall down again. How am I supposed to become undizzy when a guy with dizzy is standing over me hitting me at will? Wait until he spends his mind pool? :-)
I keep reading people say just get the mind bleed in first, but thats like saying win first then you wont lose. Not a lot of help. About doing CoB first, I haven't tried that yet, once because I was late to awareness, other two I tried warcry 2 or bleed first. I could sure try that and see how it goes ...
So TK/fencer lines seem good, but Carbineer lines seem better. The counter attack is good, but they also have bonuses against knockdown and dizzy in the same line, plus ranged mitigation 2. Plus, now you have something to hit them with if they just try to run away at the end if their mind is down to 1. Any thoughts on this by folks who went this way? Thanks,
Dog - frustrated master swordsman/brawler TK 3323