Squad Leader Archive
Thread: Throw me a fricken bone here!!
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Tyser
Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:13 pm
#1
OK I AM MAD i dropped master combat medic for MSL i got far in SL when pub 22 came out!!!!! You get like no xp hunting and that is like the only thing you can do to grind ithought SL would be good to get xp for jedi now it is udeless. Gosh dang some one help me out here. I might even change to another game
Kharast
Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:20 am
#2
edit: stupid browser!
Message Edited by Kharast on 08-18-2005 06:21 AM
Kharast
Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:21 am
#3
getting 100xp per kill seems to be broken. what i mean is the formula to get that total, not the total itself.
patch notes said two players kill the same creature get the same xp (6000) if they group and kill two creatures in the same amount of time (getting 3000 each) they'll be at the full solo amount. however, because they grouped, they will get an additional grouping bonus that increases as the group size increases.
ty, yeraze, for posting your observed bonuses below. this will help my example tremendously
two players group and kill a 6000xp creaturewith a 6.6% bonus, giving a total xp value of 6396 xp. divide that by two and each player gets 3198 xp.
6000 * 1.066 = 6396 / 2 = 3198
the problem seems to be that the system is not adding the base xp value and the bonus amount. instead, it looks like it is only dividing the bonus by the number of players in the group
6000 * .066 = 396 / 2 = 198
is this as good as it was pre22? no, of course not. it looks like there is a bug in the calculations and wont be nearly as bad as so many are saying.
EDIT: changed formula example to be inline w/ yeraze's observations. thank you again.
Message Edited by Kharast on 08-18-2005 06:29 AM
Yeraze
Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:25 am
#4
Check my thread here for some specific numbers. The bonuses for group size are (from what i've seen)
2 people - 6.6%
3 people - 9.9%
4 people - 13.2%
5 people - 16.5%
6 people - 19.2%
7 people - 23.1%
8 people - 25%
2 people - 6.6%
3 people - 9.9%
4 people - 13.2%
5 people - 16.5%
6 people - 19.2%
7 people - 23.1%
8 people - 25%
Kharast
Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:25 am
#5
gang, checkherefor my a better version of this extrapolation.
this is the second and last link i'm making to this thread in a forum to encourage my peers to stay. the first was my guild's forums. if people (not us SL's but the rest of the SWG community) want to find it they can. same as if they want to believe and stay in SWG or not believe and cancel. im eager for them to leave...that means less lag and competition for game resources for me when they go.
Message Edited by Kharast on 08-18-2005 08:26 AM
Sylow
Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:42 am
#6
And the essence of it: Wait a few days if Devs admit that it's broken. If they don't, we're seriously FUBARed, but all indications in Tiggs postings point towards the current XP rate not working correctly.
(Actually an often used approach in other games. If you want to nerf something, first nerf it double or tripple as bad as you really want it. Wait a few days, then "fix" the nerf by changing it to the nerf rate you actually wanted. Then you have one week of massive bitching and complaining, but on longer terms, you saved yourself quite some trouble. But don't spread this knowledge into other forums, it's only certified for leaders... *grin* )
Message Edited by Sylow on 08-18-2005 05:44 PM
AlienEntity
Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:18 am
#7
Heh, good think I like SL to much to drop any of it. With all these...problems they're giving us, I'm glad I have no desire to change out. Let's just hope the supposed 24 and 25 publish gives us something actually good.
HzGuderian
Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:41 am
#8
SL wasn't a good way to get xp for FS boxes anyway. Conversion is 90:1.
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