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Thread: Master Squad Leader + Master Bounty Hunter + 4400 Rifles = Uh oh...
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DonkeyChips
Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:35 pm
#1
I don't know what you guys think, but this looks incredibly fun to me.
Using the new CU skill calculator:
MSL, MBH, 4400 Rifles, 0400 Enhanced Reflexes (you can probably swap 4400 rifles for whatever you want too).
Skill mod Summary:
Bounty Mission Difficulty +3
Burst Run Efficiency +40
Camping +40
Creature Harvesting +15
Creature Knowledge +5
Droid Precision +130
Droid Speed +90
Droid Tracking Speed +80
Foraging +35
General Ranged Accuracy +160
General Ranged Speed +55
Group Burst Run Efficiency +60
Group Melee Defense +30
Group Ranged Defense +30
Group Terrain Negotiation +60
Mask Scent +70
Melee Defense +175
Ranged Defense +230
Rifle Accuracy +85
Rifle Defense +20
Rifle Speed +30
Steady Aim Bonus +10
Terrain Negotiation +40
Tracking Droid Effectiveness +100
Tracking Droids +12
Trapping +5
Volley Fire Bonus +10
Drawback: Your only armor cert is Assault. Recon will have crappy mods since you're not a master rifleman. However, in PvE and GvG you will be a melee-tanking beast and can unleash hell with your rifles, group and BH specials. You'll also be moderately proficient with any other pistols and carbines you might be certed for, although rifles are your specialty.
Using the new CU skill calculator:
MSL, MBH, 4400 Rifles, 0400 Enhanced Reflexes (you can probably swap 4400 rifles for whatever you want too).
Skill mod Summary:
Bounty Mission Difficulty +3
Burst Run Efficiency +40
Camping +40
Creature Harvesting +15
Creature Knowledge +5
Droid Precision +130
Droid Speed +90
Droid Tracking Speed +80
Foraging +35
General Ranged Accuracy +160
General Ranged Speed +55
Group Burst Run Efficiency +60
Group Melee Defense +30
Group Ranged Defense +30
Group Terrain Negotiation +60
Mask Scent +70
Melee Defense +175
Ranged Defense +230
Rifle Accuracy +85
Rifle Defense +20
Rifle Speed +30
Steady Aim Bonus +10
Terrain Negotiation +40
Tracking Droid Effectiveness +100
Tracking Droids +12
Trapping +5
Volley Fire Bonus +10
Drawback: Your only armor cert is Assault. Recon will have crappy mods since you're not a master rifleman. However, in PvE and GvG you will be a melee-tanking beast and can unleash hell with your rifles, group and BH specials. You'll also be moderately proficient with any other pistols and carbines you might be certed for, although rifles are your specialty.
Message Edited by DonkeyChips on 04-05-2005 11:09 PM
Glynnis
Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:15 am
#2
Masterfish wrote:Can you link the new CU skill calculator, please?
Here it is: CU Character Builder. Although the page says, "New web host should be online today!" at the top.
Yeraze
Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:06 am
#3
Personally, I'm lookin forward to making Master SL/Master Carbineer/0400 Bounty Hunter, with 18 points leftover to "play" with.
Bounty Mission Difficulty +1
Burst Run Efficiency +40
Camping +40
Carbine Accuracy +65
Carbine Defense +40
Carbine Speed +50
Creature Harvesting +15
Creature Knowledge +5
Foraging +35
General Ranged Accuracy +148
General Ranged Speed +51
Group Burst Run Efficiency +60
Group Melee Defense +30
Group Ranged Defense +30
Group Terrain Negotiation +60
Mask Scent +70
Melee Defense +150
Ranged Defense +154
Steady Aim Bonus +10
Terrain Negotiation +40
Trapping +5
Volley Fire Bonus +10
Add up the accuracies to see +213 accuracy, and add up the speeds to see +101 speed
And +220 melee/ranged defense in groups while you carry your carbine Plus the choice of Battle or Assault armor.
Bounty Mission Difficulty +1
Burst Run Efficiency +40
Camping +40
Carbine Accuracy +65
Carbine Defense +40
Carbine Speed +50
Creature Harvesting +15
Creature Knowledge +5
Foraging +35
General Ranged Accuracy +148
General Ranged Speed +51
Group Burst Run Efficiency +60
Group Melee Defense +30
Group Ranged Defense +30
Group Terrain Negotiation +60
Mask Scent +70
Melee Defense +150
Ranged Defense +154
Steady Aim Bonus +10
Terrain Negotiation +40
Trapping +5
Volley Fire Bonus +10
Add up the accuracies to see +213 accuracy, and add up the speeds to see +101 speed
And +220 melee/ranged defense in groups while you carry your carbine Plus the choice of Battle or Assault armor.Message Edited by Yeraze on 04-06-2005 09:08 AM
Kharast
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:20 am
#4
MSL / MBH / Rifle 4400 was my thought too!! i was really loving the prospect of those melee and ranged defense mods. right now as a MSL / MP my def mods were like +20. i was getting beat down by nearly anything. and if got into melee with a big mob (krayt, gorax, high end rebels, etc)...well lets just say i'm getting close to Master Cloner.
here is a another proffession calc. its a download but is really nice. it even gives descriptions of the skills and mods. if i messed up the clicky, drop this into your address bar and it should initiate the ZIP download.
http://www.bloodfin.org/downloads/SWGProfCalc-CU.zip
Cryos_Merovingian
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:33 am
#5
As an outsider looking in here... you should consider dropping Ranger 0/0/4/0 into the mix... because then you could /areatrack players too! - Great for a BH
Kharast
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:43 am
#6
oops. forgot to mention how great it will be to use the INTIMIDATOR pistol!!
while i'm at it, i might as well share with you all some number crunching i did to find this combo's best weapons (there are more but this is the best). this list is smaller compared to other elite ranged profs, but i think very well rounded:
Intimidator Pistol
Kinetic
short range
Estimated DSP: 263
Light Lightning Cannon
Energy-Electricity
short range
E DSP: 172
E5 Carbine
Energy
medium range
E DSP: 261
Czerka Dart Carbine
Kinetic
medium range
E DSP: 229
Beam Rifle
Energy-heat
long range (?)
E DSP: 174
Jawa Ion Rifle
Energy-electriciy
long range
E DSP: 241
Spraystick
Energy-heat
long range
E DSP: 108
Tusken Rifle
Kinetic
long range
E DSP: 196
incase you're wondering i got this data off of the sreenshots from the TC. someone had postedall the weapons available from the frogs.
LiakyK
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:55 am
#7
Why does SL use Survival and not Exploration in that Character builder? I thought They were takin out survival and leaving Exploration in.
Thatguyfubu
Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:26 am
#8
I am personally looking at MSL, MCommando, Pistoleer 0004, and Enhanced Reflex 3000. This puts my ranged and melee defense up to around 200 each before the grouped defense bonuses.
Masterfish
Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:01 pm
#9
Hmmm sounds pretty good! 
Can you link the new CU skill calculator, please?
Thanks!
OrachDamh
Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:00 am
#10
My CU template will be:
Master BH
Master Pistoleer
Marksman 0404
Scout 4004
Squad Leader 0404
and the last 4 skill points in FS melee defense.
This template will yeild the following stats:
melee defense +235
ranged defense +235/+260
pistol defense +50
general ranged speed+80
pistol speed +45
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totalspeed with pistol equipped+125
general accuracy +190
pistol accuracy +40
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total accuracywith pistol equipped +230
Orach Damh
Automaticman
Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:10 am
#11
does anyone know how the squad leader speed bonuses will be affected by speed caps? WIll they over rule them like the defense bonuses did before? And does anyone know what the speed caps (if any) will be?
Ackehece
Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:42 am
#12
Automaticman wrote:
does anyone know how the squad leader speed bonuses will be affected by speed caps? WIll they over rule them like the defense bonuses did before? And does anyone know what the speed caps (if any) will be?
No speed caps - but there will be points where having a higher speed score will do less and less for you. that should answer all your questions.
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