Squad Leader Archive

Now we all have our ups and downs. Personally I can understand a group now wanting someone telling them what to do, but I am having some major problems. Tonight I had a real life friend extensively cuss me out in game for rallying. We where doing some resource hunting on dantooine for hurton bones and I called a /rally during the battle, battle ended, and he went to harvest, and of course since the rally was still on he was unable to harvest bones. He promptly exclaimed that rally never does anything, and that I should never do it, and that my character was useless. Well we finished the lair and I logged, still reeling from the shock so to speak.

Here's my question, what do you do when no one wants a leader, no one wants you to use any skills becasue they're all to impatient, what do you do when the other players don't want to be told what to do.

I know exactly what you mean.

And i would love just as much as you to have just a slight understanding of how much "group melee/ranged defence" or "rally" really does.

// th0mas
Aefa Fresky @ FarStar

It just gets to be a little disheartening, I mean I often feel like I'm hurting the group and slowing things down more then I'm helping. For evreytime I add organization in combat etc etc there is another time where everyone is sitting there waiting for rally to wear off or times when I'm standing around giving giving combat direction no one is listening to, while watching the chaos go around me.

That I can identify with too. Its a real drag when people don't want to follow your lead. Leadership is all about influence, and that comes with respect. That's respect towards you that is. If you can get people to follow you, without having it forced, or have a severe consequence for not "obeying", then that is true leadership. I'm working on that and its working out very well so far. I'm getting less and less of the "Who died and made you leader" attitude.

I exercise my leadership by rallying my guild. I don't mean using the /rally feature. I'm referring to getting 5 or 6 of my guild members, whom all have 2 or 3 Storm Trooper pets, and we parade in Theed all wearing our very own Storm Trooper armor. Think about it for a moment. We're not going there to fight and no one is going to pay us in game or out, to do this... but while we're doing it, they see the reaction by everyone whowitness 20 white Storm Troopers marching in Theed.

My point? It took influence to get people to do this. Now, people are asking when we're doing it again. To me, my leadership is getting better... and I'm gaining respect. That makes my job a lot easier. If I wasn't initially respected as a person, I'd have no hope as a Squad Leader.

True and I'm more then respected when out of combat in my guild (I'm our assitant guild leader) but once combat comes in everyone is so inent on laying their burn into the critter, and making their FT hit hardest that everyone kinda seems to disregaurd me..........

I'll vouch for you and I'llsay that you are not the problem. This guy has his butt-floss and bunny slippers in a knot. A little too stressed. He'll get over it, don't hold it against him unless he continues this behaviour.

I get attitude msyelf for being a squad leader. Some of my own guild mates make fun of me because I'm not a hybrid CH/Commando dishing out 6000 damage with a poke-mon pet. Simplest strategy there is. I'd really like to know when we're attacked how much defensive benefits they are getting from me so I can rub it in their faces.

I chose Squad Leader to benefit the team/guild knowing I was sacrificing my own solo attack strength. I have a broader, selfless vision in mind. I think ALL Squad Leaders do. I don't do it for the title, I'm already a guild leader. I'm doing it to benefit those who are grouped with me. Squad Leader is a support profession, much like Doctor and Combat Medic. I choose to support and enhance my members and I will not change my mind on that. Although this profession is broken, I'm holding out. I would really like to believe, that we will have the last laugh.

Toga, don't give it up. Continue to play as you do and if you need to.... change friends. Just don't change professions.

Fauz nice posts, we got to go hunting sometime together on Kauri. Swap grouping strageties. Plus I can train ya up as we go along.

Toga don't give you SL just cause 1 moron couldn't get his harvest done. I lead my guild on regular hunts to Endor, Dathomir, and Dantoonie. They've gotten use to have one person call the shots, watch for members etc. The medics like it that they don't have to worry about watching HAMs as much, just watch for the red /sys mess to flash, the melee guys like that I call spawns out on lairs and direct pet attacks.

Right now with SL commands not always working or lacking in some key areas, what makes a good squad leader is someone who understands the tactics of group hunting. For some groups their stragety is pull at uber weapons, zerg at monsters, have medics heal damage in the middle of combat. As a SL it's our job to bring more finese to the hunt and in the end save time and resources.

To answer your question though if we get a new person in the group who doesn't want to follow orders, tap lairs on his own etc we wait a nice agg to hit him and then kindly degroup. Usually straightens them up really fast.

Well, I can see both sides of it, being a ranger who just recently picked up squad leader too.

To begin with, I have to admit that I am so new to the SL occupation that I don't know if it is possible to turn off /rally manually or if it must fade by itself. But I c-a-n say that for me as a ranger, it has been very frustrating at times to come home from a three hour hunt with not a single unit of hide, bone or meat, just because a SL kept using rally so much that all the corpses went *poof* before I could harvets them. This is beyond frustrating actually, since the resources I could have harvested in those three hours would have brought me over 100k creds at the open market...

Now, going off on a rant because you have to w-a-i-t for a little while before you can harvest is another thing all together. As long as the corpses are still around to be harvested it's not a problem...

Looking forward to joining the (thin?) ranks of master squad leaders...

There was nothing more freeing than detraining from master SL after being a master for three months and accomplished without the insane xp cap.