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Thread: SquadLeaders could be BH best friend, need help with more testing though.

Magnusocc
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:38 pm
#1

Greetings Squad Leaders.


I have a few things that need testing.


Fact,High Accuracy gets shots past Saber Block, and when a SL applies SteadyAim and Rally the BH chance to land a shot is GREATLY increased.


What I need to find out is more about Rally and Jedi Defenders.

Even though high accuracy gets past saber block, the odds of landing a state effect against a jedi defender are almost Zero. (not talking about jedi with 4th healing bubble who clear states, they dont all have that anyway)

I need help in testing this out. I you are a Radiant SL please contact me (Magnusocc) in game. I can get a Jedi who will allow us to shoot at him . Or if you can test this on your server and post results here this is good too.


I also would like to test Retreat.

I am wanting to know if after pressing Burst Run and the SL presses Retreat, can a non jedi catch or escape a jedi with burstrun.


I firmly believe that BH should start seeking SL out for Jedi hunts. I also SL will prove to be a much sought after profession with the many changes to the game in the months to come.

Keep fighting the good fight Squad Leaders!

Thanks for your help.

~S~

Magnusocc
Bhaal_Darkov
Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:21 pm
#2






Magnusocc wrote:

Greetings Squad Leaders.


I have a few things that need testing.


Fact,High Accuracy gets shots past Saber Block, and when a SL applies SteadyAim and Rally the BH chance to land a shot is GREATLY increased.


What I need to find out is more about Rally and Jedi Defenders.

Even though high accuracy gets past saber block, the odds of landing a state effect against a jedi defender are almost Zero. (not talking about jedi with 4th healing bubble who clear states, they dont all have that anyway)

I need help in testing this out. I you are a Radiant SL please contact me (Magnusocc) in game. I can get a Jedi who will allow us to shoot at him . Or if you can test this on your server and post results here this is good too.


I also would like to test Retreat.

I am wanting to know if after pressing Burst Run and the SL presses Retreat, can a non jedi catch or escape a jedi with burstrun.


I firmly believe that BH should start seeking SL out for Jedi hunts. I also SL will prove to be a much sought after profession with the many changes to the game in the months to come.

Keep fighting the good fight Squad Leaders!

Thanks for your help.

~S~

Magnusocc





High accuracy does NOTHING to saber block. At saber block 85, only 15% of LANDED shots will actualy make it past the block. This calculates to much lower than a 15% chance of hitting. Accuracy +4,578wouldn't mean anything vs. saber block. It is the "I WIN" skill vs, all ranged. BTW, you can saber block while:


dizzy, stun, blind, while throwing your saber, while kd, while on you bike AND while swimming


but some fairy with a bone baton will kick the hell out of a jedi knight.......that makes sense..







Bhaal Darkov
Master Bounty Hunter
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Bhaal_Darkov
Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:25 pm
#3

Not flaming you btw. Everyone needs to understand this game breaking skill though.



Bhaal Darkov
Master Bounty Hunter
174

Therascalking3
Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:00 am
#4

yeah its totally true because i have +190 carbine accuracy and i cant hit a jedi for my life. Truthfully it makes no sense that melee combatants can beat a jedi when in starwars it was the ranged guys who killed jedis not melee guys. In fact in the star wars movies and such i dont remember really any melee combat other than lightsaber. KOTOR had some but that also took place like 4000 years before this time period.


Saber block should be able to block a good deal of ranged but not the percentage it does and it should block melee well too as wouldnt the jedi be able to sense where the hit is coming from. If a well trained boxer can tell what kind of punch you are gonna throw i think a jedi would be able to as well. Especially if he can tell where a laser bolt is heading before it hits him.



Edoh
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Master Carbineer
Starsider
Wystery
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:09 am
#5

But, speaking as a long time BH/SL (now gone to full bh and no sl), BH's are supposed to be solo. Not that I don't know anyone that wouldn't want a few friends with them to kill the dirt of the universe, but really they should be pretty solo.



Colonel Goldy Different
MSL MBH
Imperial Inquisition
Ahazi

aka

Sokepe
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Scylla
Yog-Soth
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:40 am
#6

I don't know about Solo , self-suffecient yes.. But there are lots of examples in SW of bountyHunters teaming with a partner , or groups of partners. The only one i can think of off-hand who kept to a strict solo career was bobba fett.




Master-Sergeant Tanthis Byblos; SquadLeader

"Get off my obstacle Private ! Get the **** off my obstacle !! "
Therascalking3
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:55 am
#7

well the reason why there is that stereotype is because of boba fett. He is practically the definition of bounty hunter in star wars



Edoh
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Master Carbineer
Starsider
thelar
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:04 am
#8






Wystery wrote:
But, speaking as a long time BH/SL (now gone to full bh and no sl), BH's are supposed to be solo. Not that I don't know anyone that wouldn't want a few friends with them to kill the dirt of the universe, but really they should be pretty solo.






Jedi arent dirt of the universe. We are guardians of peace and justice, it is the BH rather who kill in cold blood for a quick buck that are the dirt of the universe. Just thought I would clarify that.


Saber block cannot be bypassed with higher accuracy by the way. And mele guys hit us hard and the only defence to them is force run so we can avoid them and go chase down all the ranged guys so that the ranged guys cant kill my mele friends who are busy killing the dirty imp mele guys who are busy trying to kill me.


Just my 2 cents from a master squad leader and a Jedi Knight.




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Therascalking3
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:12 am
#9






thelar wrote:



Jedi arent dirt of the universe. We are guardians of peace and justice, it is the BH rather who kill in cold blood for a quick buck that are the dirt of the universe. Just thought I would clarify that.


Saber block cannot be bypassed with higher accuracy by the way. And mele guys hit us hard and the only defence to them is force run so we can avoid them and go chase down all the ranged guys so that the ranged guys cant kill my mele friends who are busy killing the dirty imp mele guys who are busy trying to kill me.


Just my 2 cents from a master squad leader and a Jedi Knight.






maybe if you restrict your view to the jedi of the jedi council and the boba fett type bounty hunters. What you dont realize is that there are other views in the world of star wars. The empire sees bounty hunters as contracted enforcers of justice and jedi as the rebellious scourge and uncivilized.


The unbiased view would probably be that jedi are noble individuals who try to bring peace to themselves and the world and bounty hunters are the same only they bring peace to the people they work for and no peace for the guy they hunt down.


This game gives a bad impression of bounty hunters because their sole purpose is to hit the terminals and kill a jedi.





Edoh
Member of Sturmgrenadier
Master Squad Leader
Master Carbineer
Starsider
Yog-Soth
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:23 am
#10

I would like to qoute , Grand Moff Tarkin,

Distastefully ," BountyHunters.. We don't need that type of scum.."




Master-Sergeant Tanthis Byblos; SquadLeader

"Get off my obstacle Private ! Get the **** off my obstacle !! "
Magnusocc
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:34 am
#11

well all I can say is we have seen temps with high accuracy get past saber block. Thanks for the input though.
Therascalking3
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:40 am
#12






Magnusocc wrote:

well all I can say is we have seen temps with high accuracy get past saber block. Thanks for the input though.







Maybe low level jedi but that would be accuracy doing the job. Im telling you i have +190 in skills alone that is forgetting the couple SEAs i have. My accuracy is usually over 200 when i have most of my armor on. I have faced jedis of all levels of lighsaber and while i did do some damage to the lower level guys i got 1 out of ever 10-15 shots off on a master.


And grand moff tarking was an unhappy scrouge of a man lol. Plus look at the creepy ass bounty hunters he had to visit him no wonder man. Jango Fett was a pretty clean cut figure. Tarkin is dead anyway he sucked.




Edoh
Member of Sturmgrenadier
Master Squad Leader
Master Carbineer
Starsider
Magnusocc
Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:58 pm
#13

actually it was a high lvl jedi but no worries was just interested in some testing. I will continue to do so when I can. Thanks
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