Squad Leader Archive

Thread: Why I feel one should be able to get SL xp when grouped with pets or bots

LuchenAthos
Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:19 pm
#1

Our corespondent Void Vem stated:
--->Squad Leaders should not be able to acquire Squad Leader XP when grouped with pets and pets alone. It encourages soloing to a group-specific class.


I completely disagree with this. There is no other profession that requires a group to recieve xp. The medical profession does require that you heal someone or a pet to recieve xp. Although if you wish to have your wounds healed you must visit a person that is in the medical profession. If you want to be in an effective group your are not required to find a squad leader.

LuchenAthos
Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:23 pm
#2

((I appoligise I posted this post before I was finished))


I understand that the Squad Leader profession benifits are for a group. Although I do not feel that I should be at the mercy of other players to recieve xp for my profession. Currently the xp recieved when grouped with a pet or bot is minimal. I do not believe this should change. If it does it requires the consint of another player to get SL xp. Even in the medical profession consent isn't required to gain xp.


Shadowleader3
Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:39 pm
#3

I agree with you 100% WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BEG FOR A GROUP TO ADVANCE.


The xp you get is minimal for grouping with pets/droids.


Take a look at the xp that you can get in a group of 20.


http://www.myweb.cableone.net/wujenclan/pictures/bestxp.jpg


And this is coming from somone who HAS NO USE for squad leader xp anymore.




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Sheuset
Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:09 am
#4

I agree, it doesn't matter whether we are leading player chars, bots, or faction pets. We are leading groups in all those cases and should be rewarded with xp for doing so.
ZOGMrBill
Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:16 am
#5

I disagree, there is no other group that revolves around leading people either.


to me its the same issue as how i can craft food all the way to novice weaponsmith-----huh?


so i can become a leet SL by.......soloing with my pet Roach(es). it makes a little more sense with having people pets like stormtroopers, but i think in general your skill as SL should improve only as you lead real people in real groups


i suspect the reason this bothers most people is becuase it means they have to form a real group and cant grind xp 12 hours/day as easily.




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Happymob
Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:39 am
#6

You shouldn't get squad leader for pet/droid only groups and really medics shouldn't get mical exp for healing pets (though they certainly should have the ability to heal a pet). Nobody should the group bonus exp for having a pet only group either. A pet or droid that you own is really just an extension of your yourself.


It's kind of silly thatI will be able to advance much faster in my chosen squad leader and combat medic professions by making a temporary (and relatively easy given the squad leader pre-reqs) into creature handler.


That all said, they should either lower the squad leader exp requirements, or increase the group size factor when determine exp.




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Nyase
Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:49 am
#7

I dislike the idea of getting xp for pets as well. It rather cheapens the experiance I think. However, until they come up with a decent/better system for squad leaders getting experiance points, I'm going to have to suppor pets giving SL xp. Most people don't see a real need to join up with a Squad leader, especially a novice one. This being the case, makes it virtually impossible to get any xp any other way. Also, there's the fact that in some areas, there's not even that many people around who want to group anyway. I hang out in Restus on Rori, and most everyone there either already has their set groups they go out with or are soloing for some quick cash.



Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the issue.




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GWLlosa
Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:12 am
#8

I disagree strongly. I don't think anyone ought to be able to earn a title like "Master Squad Leader" without having to Lead Squads.
Sheuset
Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:50 am
#9

I agree with the original poster. It makes no difference to me whether youre grouping with people or pets, youre still grouping and youre still the group leader.


I wish someone would try to make this class stronger rather than making it weaker, and someone should advise the devs to do so.

GuyverLord
Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:58 am
#10

Personally I think you should NOT get Squad Leader XP when group with only your own pets.

However add one real person to the group and then the Squad Leader Xp for your pets should kick in. There should be at least 1 real person in the group besides the Squad Leader to get Squad Leader XP.

A person with pets is not a squad. He/She is simply a creature handler.

A group of people makes up a squad. If creature handlers are in the squad this still requires leadership because the Squad Leader must make sure that the Handler uses his/her pets most effectively.



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