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Thread: Faction Pets: a possible niche for Squad Leaders?

Sheuset
Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:07 pm
#1

I've heard this idea tossed around some, but haven't seen a topic on it yet:


What about giving some powerful bonuses in aseparate skill lneto squad leaders that directly affect faction pets. Each skill would grant a specific bonus, some examples could be:


1.) A significant discount on all faction pets to reflect our leadership role.


2.) HAM bonuses to all faction pets.


Another idea I thought would be pretty neat would be the ability to "pick up" faction troops you see in the field. For instance, if you are a master squad leader you could have the ability to "pick up" at no cost the el cheapo troopers, up to 3 of course. Perhaps even have the kind of trooper you could pick up (up to and NOT including stormtroopers) dependent on your skill in the aforementioned line, acting as a certification of sorts.


It would be sort of like a (balanced)Creature Handler for Faction warfare.

The_Cabbage
Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:50 pm
#2

Hmm...sounds interesting. I'd love it, but it's kinda unfair for us to get for free something that would take 1k or more faction points for everyone else.



- Krelian Atreides, Lowca
Master Squad Leader/Creature Handler/Pistoleer
MadBarbarian
Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:56 pm
#3

no offence but isnt it kind of unfair that we are a class that has to work hard to get up levels and ends up offereing almost no bonuses when other people get great bonuses...


i think its a great idea, but it shouldnt befaction relatedin the field, it should be like mercs and body guards, and then SL could sell them too people.




Thorin Kinslee- Loyal to the Empire
Sheuset
Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:16 pm
#4

Cabbage, would it be unfair if it was just the lowly trooper guys? The ones with the mullets and jumpsuits (Imperial)? They will only cost like 100-200 fp in the upcoming patch, they drop like flies in combat, but I think at the very least it would be set us apart from the other classes. Btw, good to see another Dune fan squad leader hehe.


MadBarbarian, I didn't mean to imply that SL would be a faction pet only profession, and I agree that it is horribly unfair that we work our butts off to level in our profession at a painstakingly slow rate for almost no bonuses. What do you mean by "shouldn't be faction related in the field?"


Maybe the squad leader would have the ability totrain a generic bodyguard type support infantry that would be equivalent to the Rebel and Imperial troopers. It would be kinda cool to customize him, such as the different types of weapons he uses, his uniform, etc.

MadBarbarian
Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:06 am
#5

i mean so it doesnt forse you to join a faction, you revruit mercenarys or bodyguards instaed of factional pets, otherwise you would need to join a faction to get the pets.



Thorin Kinslee- Loyal to the Empire
Shadowleader3
Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:09 am
#6

I like the idea of a discount on faction pets, but i dunno if it would work with smugglers having a more general thing in their tree.


As far as the boost to HAM for your faction pets, thats a maybe. I mean a AT-ST already has 100,000 HAM so why do you need more?




________________: Wu'Jen :: Chilastra : Sacred Nemesis, PA : 1st Master Squad Leader
Sheuset
Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:14 am
#7

HAM bonuses and discounts are just examples of what could be done to help us out some, as it is now theres no reason to go SL when all you get are some bonuses you wont even see until the second tier in the skill lines.


I'm not convinced SOE cares about this profession, much less plans to do anything with it. It seems to me the only ones that are truly working anymore are the bounty hunters and creature handlers. At least we're not as horribly broken as the commando.....wait nm, at least the commando gets special weapons.


Come to think of it, we're the only class that gets penalized for using its special abilities lol! I think special soldier/faction pets would go a long ways in making us relevent.

Sheuset
Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:09 pm
#8

It is much more fun to group with faction pets than humans most of the time, at least they follow orders without any lip.


One thing that really needs to be fixed about pets is the guard order. If I lose 99% of my health thanks to some bounty hunter special move I want my Darktrooper bodyguard to at LEAST return fire lol

MadBarbarian
Fri Aug 01, 2003 5:14 pm
#9

lol, actually we are pretty much useless wirhout people too...



Thorin Kinslee- Loyal to the Empire
OrodiasDessett
Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:34 am
#10

@#$% fairness, I want something that'll make my SL tree worthwhile. I have many times proposed the idea of SL's getting exclusive bonuses for NPC pets. It would make up for the fact that the profession is pretty much useless without other people. Now I understand that the very essense of a Squad Leader lies in other people, but realistically, we can't always be grouping (nor do we necessarily want to). Squad Leadershould besocialable, NOT co-dependent. So NPC pets would allow a Squad Leader to effectively solo and gain some SL XP (though significantly less than when grouped with players, because we do want to encourage PC grouping), while fulfilling the idealism of a Squad Leader having a squad.



Orodias Des'sett
Mos Eisley, Tatooine
Bloodfin
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