Squad Leader Archive
Thread: Defense bonuses not stacking after combat rebalance
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Washu0
Fri Jan 30, 2004 12:25 pm
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Over on the pikeman board in message http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pikeman&message.id=15435, Thunderheart wrote:
"Its true - - no more Defense stacking after the combat rebalance is done."
How does that negation of stacking affect the squad leader's group melee and ranged +30 defense bonuses? I haven't seen this issue addressed anywhere yet.
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Pirotess al'Khairan
Scylla
"Its true - - no more Defense stacking after the combat rebalance is done."
How does that negation of stacking affect the squad leader's group melee and ranged +30 defense bonuses? I haven't seen this issue addressed anywhere yet.
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Pirotess al'Khairan
Scylla
irott
Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:37 pm
#2
Well thats something I have been wondering myself.
I think that its only the special defenses that wont be stacking anymore. The Def vs KD/Stun/blind, etc.
The ranged defense and melee defense should be able to stack still. If you look in the skill trees, master dancer/musician gets bonus melee defenses.
Dilune if you catch this could you look into it for us?
DiLune
Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:13 pm
#3
Well, there's no definitive word as to what defense he's talking about exactly. I wouldn't get too worked up about it right now though. My advice, if you are worried about defense stacking, is to get a toon ready to test it when the combat balance hits TC. The Devs listen to people who get them real numbers from there (and do gather players to test other cool stuff like the ATAT.)
But for now I'm not sure if he was talking about all the Dodge/Block/Counter not stacking, or the range melee not stacking...I don't know. They still want this to be a skill game, not a class game so that seems to imply there has to be SOME sort of defensive stacking. Otherwise you end up wasting skill points if you aren't mastering one profession.
Washu0
Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:48 am
#4
From all the threads I've read, the defensive bonuses that have people's panties in a knot are ranged and melee, not the defenses against specials.
Given the sheer complexity of the game, I wouldn't be surprised if the SL's stacking of bonuses was simply overlooked, so it would be nice to get straight answers on:
1) Exactly which defensive bonuses won't be stacked;
2) If it's ranged/melee, have the SL's bonuses been considered.
(I'm probably asking way too much here, lol!)
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Pirotess al'Khairan
Scylla
Given the sheer complexity of the game, I wouldn't be surprised if the SL's stacking of bonuses was simply overlooked, so it would be nice to get straight answers on:
1) Exactly which defensive bonuses won't be stacked;
2) If it's ranged/melee, have the SL's bonuses been considered.
(I'm probably asking way too much here, lol!)
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Pirotess al'Khairan
Scylla
irott
Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:04 am
#5
It is a confusing subject as we don't really have all the information from the devs on this one.
I can see how the devs want to change the system so that there wont be anymore "defense" templates. But say you go Master Swordsman and Master Brawler, you should still get those bonus defenses found at master brawler.
As far as Group defenses stacking, I dont see it as a problem, since thats the point of those skill mods. So until we get a bit more info about the defense portion of the combat revamp this is just going to be up in the air.
Wystery
Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:38 pm
#6
Yes I think we just have to wait for more information.
Squad leader bonuses should not be affected, but they can easily be overlooked or accidentally negated. that would ruin SL just because it would kill all the passive bonuses that people like. *shrug* I can wait for more info.
Squad leader bonuses should not be affected, but they can easily be overlooked or accidentally negated. that would ruin SL just because it would kill all the passive bonuses that people like. *shrug* I can wait for more info.
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