Squad Leader Archive

Grouping

• We changed the way group payouts for missions are calculated. When a mission is generated, the reward payout per member is calculated based on the current size of the group. If the group shrinks in size or group members aretoo far away to receive payout, those that do get paid receive the original per member reward. For example, if 3 players take a mission that pays 12k credits, each player will receive a maximum of 4k credits when the mission is completed. They receive 0 if they are out of range, and less if more people are added to the group to complete the mission.


• Added 'Show Group Waypoints' in-game option.
  
• Group members' active waypoints now appear in a 'Group Waypoints' tab in the datapad.
  
• Fixed a bug where you could target yourself and form a group of one
  
• Fixed problem where if you are in a group, you sometimes don't receive your mission reward

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Apparently, there has been some mixed feelings about this new change. Personally, I like it. However, this would also create a bigger gap between the rich and poor because the rich are already wealthy while the poor would have a harder time catching up.

Message Edited by Soda_Jedi [to add aclicky to the source post.]

Message Edited by Soda_Jedi on 11-10-2004 02:44 AM

Yeah, I saw that.

I agree, I have mixed feelings about this. It's gonna make getting money as a non-crafter REALLY hard, and drive people to profs like Creature Handler so they can get their mission level up (so they can get Mokk missions solo on the terminals).

Overall, it seems like it will destroy groups. But, it means that all the groups left will be actual groups and not "solo groups". So I dunno, have to think about this for a while.

Message Edited by Blackferne on 11-09-2004 07:47 PM

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irott wrote:

Also notice that pets no longer play a part in mission levels, unless you are a creature handler.

No more AT-ST mission boosts.

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Although the Test Center players were saying that it was still letting them get the higher missions with an ATST (although they did get half the money for being grouped with one other thing). Overall, it looks like a good change. But they do need to be careful with it.

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Nemo0 wrote:

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irott wrote:

Also notice that pets no longer play a part in mission levels, unless you are a creature handler.

No more AT-ST mission boosts.

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Although the Test Center players were saying that it was still letting them get the higher missions with an ATST (although they did get half the money for being grouped with one other thing). Overall, it looks like a good change. But they do need to be careful with it.

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Did some testing myself... and it is true. AT-STs still give a boost to missions.

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Soda_Jedi wrote:

I agree, caution is the keyword here. We're talking about a radical change in the way people get their income. Maybe they should give out better payoffs for people who are in groups as an incentive to grouping.

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Message Edited by ob194 on 11-11-2004 03:11 PM

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ob194 wrote:

Pets do still give better missions, though I'm not sure if this is for CHs or for everyone.

This will definetly cause widespread deflation, wich I think out economy could afford.

Message Edited by ob194 on 11-11-2004 03:11 PM

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Assuming that there aren't as many rich people as I think there are and that artisans will lower their prices to cater to the new income drop, then yes I think we could survive this. I hope we do .

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PoppaBear wrote:

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Soda_Jedi wrote:

I agree, caution is the keyword here. We're talking about a radical change in the way people get their income. Maybe they should give out better payoffs for people who are in groups as an incentive to grouping.

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I agree with your statement. If the devs are gonna do something this radical, high group payouts should be put in place. For the rich players, this new "fix" will affect them. But for players, like me, who live day-to-day on what little creds I have, and still have fun, this won't affect at all.

IMO, it seems SL's got some "unexpected love", and I hope to see SL's become a high demand again for hunting. Personally, I missed having SL's around for hunting, and I'll be glad to see ya'll back out there.

/salute

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Oh it WILL affect you if the artisans drop their prices because of the new grouping system (which seems likely), but it's a good change heh.

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Soda_Jedi wrote:

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PoppaBear wrote:

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Soda_Jedi wrote:

I agree, caution is the keyword here. We're talking about a radical change in the way people get their income. Maybe they should give out better payoffs for people who are in groups as an incentive to grouping.

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I agree with your statement. If the devs are gonna do something this radical, high group payouts should be put in place. For the rich players, this new "fix" will affect them. But for players, like me, who live day-to-day on what little creds I have, and still have fun, this won't affect at all.

IMO, it seems SL's got some "unexpected love", and I hope to see SL's become a high demand again for hunting. Personally, I missed having SL's around for hunting, and I'll be glad to see ya'll back out there.

/salute

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Oh it WILL affect you if the artisans drop their prices because of the new grouping system (which seems likely), but it's a good change heh.

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And thats IF the artisans drop their prices... But all in all I says its about bloody time a fix came along for solo-grouping.