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Thread: Question about the bonuses

Sylint
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:54 pm
#1

How far away can you be before the bonuses stop taking affect? Like for the group melee/ranged burst and negotiation.



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Blackferne
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:11 pm
#2

Soem people say planet wide others say galaxy wide.



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Diomed
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:31 pm
#3

Today I did a test to see if form up was planet wide. With my squad leader in mining outpost and my jedi in Agro it did NOT cure the jedi's stun. As such I'm now dubious about the defense bonses, has anyone tested them in any way?

Message Edited by Diomed on 02-01-2005 09:34 PM



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Blackferne
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:38 pm
#4

The defense bonuses I notice because I'm a MSL/MBH I notice have no defenses unless I'm grouped.



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Diomed
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:43 pm
#5

Works for me! Thanks!



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Sylint
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:01 am
#6

alright well has anyone tested how far your group members can go from you before the lose their bonuses to def and burst run and what not? I know some say planet and some say server and some say 500 what are you all out there experiancing?



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Jagstar_Waggler
Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:29 am
#7

welll.....

I have noticed that there are two serperate ranges.

One is the burst run/form up range which tends to be MUCH more limited then the group bonuses. I believe the group bonuses to defense are galaxy wide. while the retreat/form up range is more limited to a certain area. Think shouting distance so they can hear your words of encouragement.



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Psionic_Maji
Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:49 am
#8

i have definatly used /formup from at leat 5000 meters away successfully.



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thewenchys
Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:32 am
#9

quote:

Today I did a test to see if form up was planet wide. With my squad leader in mining outpost and my jedi in Agro it did NOT cure the jedi's stun. As such I'm now dubious about the defense bonses, has anyone tested them in any way?



good idea to test it, but you chose the wrong chars methinks, at leastthe sl i am roaming can not clear any states at all off my jedi even when standing next to me and even if i consent him ( for what it's worth..)



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Dynamon
Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:53 pm
#10

I have tried some different ranges for retreat and formup. Nothing extensive though.

It is not a specific distance. It is only on same planet. It is not all over planet, where I have tried.

It seems to be limited by some invisible boundaries on the planets.

If the SL is at Science outpost on Dathomir he also covers the area around Nightsister Stronghold. This is obviously a lot longer than shout distance. I don't know exactly how far apart they are, somewhere in the range of 3km-5km. If the groupee move towards the Imperial prison, it stops working.

If the SL moves to outside Nightsister Stronghold, he still seem to cover the exact same area as when he was in Science outpost.

So, planets are divided in areas, I guess the different areas are managed by different servers. It's within these boundarise that the retreat and formup commands works.

With this info, I assume that if you as SL are doing a mission with group that is on such a server boundary, people who are fighting on your side of the boundary would get bonuses, whiel people 50m away on other side of boundary may not get it.

It could possibly be that it is ALSO considering shout-distance, so that anyone within either shout-distance or within same server boundaries get the bonus.

If anyone know of any sort of map with the server boundaries, or whatever invisible boundaries there may be on planets, it would be interresting to have a look at it and see if my theory can be proven. It would be useful information.



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Tisse Lightingrunner - Master Swordsman / Master Doctor / Alliance Pilot Ace
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Dynamon
Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:55 pm
#11



thewenchys wrote:
quote:
Today I did a test to see if form up was planet wide. With my squad leader in mining outpost and my jedi in Agro it did NOT cure the jedi's stun. As such I'm now dubious about the defense bonses, has anyone tested them in any way?
good idea to test it, but you chose the wrong chars methinks, at least the sl i am roaming can not clear any states at all off my jedi even when standing next to me and even if i consent him ( for what it's worth..)





I'm 100% sure retreat works for Jedi. And 99% sure formup does too.



Regards,
Dynamo Lightingrunner - Jedi Knight / Alliance Pilot Ace
Tisse Lightingrunner - Master Swordsman / Master Doctor / Alliance Pilot Ace
(cancelled, last day May 25th)
Ynk Lightingrunner - Master Squad Leader, Master Rifleman, Novice Merchant
(cancelled, last day May 13th)

- 4/27/05 - I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
I fear something terrible has happened.

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