Squad Leader Archive

I think Vem has done an outstanding job as correspondant. The Squad Leader Forum is currently the only forum of any combatant profession that has any sort of organization, is dominatedreasonable and reasoned debate, and which has reached any number of solid conclusions about what needs to be done for the class. To top it off his election as correspondant was hardly popular at the time and he coped extremely well with that and has earned the respect of most of the SLs on this forum (hope I'm not presuming too much everyone).

You cannot attribute the quality of the content of this forum simply to the correspondent. We had good content before we even had a correspondent. The quality of this forum is due to a good community of SLs who care and believe they are being heard. As long as the caring stays there and people feel they have a say, I believe the quality will remain.

--Ze'ev

Well I agree with you on the pet sl xp argument, but aside from that one boneheaded mistake our correspondent has offerred many many more necessary fixes to our profession and should be commended for them.

Its senseless to fight amongst ourselves, Captain is our correspondent for better or worse and rather than undermining him,we should work with him to correct his errors and help himmake more informed judgements.

Well, after a month of exping 4 hours a night, and 12 hours a day on the weekends, I've finally made Squad Leader about 3 days ago. Let me start out by saying that I am aslo working towards commando,I'm not looking to be the "uber" PvP or PvE character, I'm doing this for RP means more then anything else, and It seems to be a uncommon combination, I DO NOT want to be like everyone else.

My observations have been that SL exp is rather low, and seems to be based on the damage I do plus a modifier for how many people are in the group. I've been grouping pretty much non stop for the last 3 days and hunting tuskens and squills on tat mostly. On average until I upgraded my FWG5 Pistol last night I was getting between 300 - 400 SL exp per kill that I did damage to, occcassionaly I would get as low as 65, or as high as 650 depending on if I were spamming specials or using them sparesly, and whether or not I actually got to start off firing at a mob at full health. Now after I upgraded my FWG5 I've been getting around 1500 per kill, this is nice exp, so maybe my perception will change as the days progress. Now on to what I see is the problem, I'm a squad leader, my SL exp should be calculated on how well my squad does. I should gain SL exp even if I don't kill or damage a mob, why? Maybe I was giving orders, or viewing the battlefield trying to plan better tactics, and didn't get a chance to shoot at the mob. I'm not saying i should get full exp as if I was attacking the mob, but 10 - 25% of the creatures max SL exp should go to me if I amleadingthe group and my squad kills the critter. We need a ridiculous amount of exp to go up in our trees, their needs to be some modification to the way that we gain the exp.

As to our Correspondents call to remove the exp gain for pets in the group, I have to say you are nuts. The exp gains with pets in the group are minimal the max that I have gotten soloing with my pet,a post nerf probot, in SL exp is 204 and that was against a yellow con mob that would have taken me out if I didnt have equilibrium as a Zabrak. Lets look at our exp costs, 175000 SL EXP per tree for tier 1, at that rate of exp gain it would take me 858 mobs to get ONE boxin a tree, it took me roughly 1.5 minutes to kill the Yellow so it would take me roughly 21 hours to gain one skill box solo as a SL using a grouped droid. Now I know there are SL/CHs out there that rake in the SL exp because they can take out yellow and red cons like a redneck can kill a case of genessy, but there are folks like me out here that aren't always able to find a group, and have to rely on our droids to get that hard to come by SL exp at times. Think about all the possible combinations of people out there before you call to nerf the exp system, realize that this is indeed a group focused class and those without groups are going to level slower, but DON'T remove the only option to get exp solo for us. I have to say also that reading through the other profession boards our Correspondent is lacking in his information. Just from his sig alone you can tell he's not a SL first person, he's advertising his merchant skill more then the SL. Just a observation that bugs the hell out of me.

Kayyin Coterei,
Wanderer of the Galaxy,
Squad Leader of the Imperial Oasis Outpost, Tatooine,
Commando in Training.

"As to our Correspondents call to remove the exp gain for pets in the group, I have to say you are nuts. The exp gains with pets in the group are minimal the max that I have gotten soloing with my pet,a post nerf probot, in SL exp is 204 and that was against a yellow con mob that would have taken me out if I didnt have equilibrium as a Zabrak. Lets look at our exp costs, 175000 SL EXP per tree for tier 1, at that rate of exp gain it would take me 858 mobs to get ONE boxin a tree, it took me roughly 1.5 minutes to kill the Yellow so it would take me roughly 21 hours to gain one skill box solo as a SL using a grouped droid. Now I know there are SL/CHs out there that rake in the SL exp because they can take out yellow and red cons like a redneck can kill a case of genessy, but there are folks like me out here that aren't always able to find a group, and have to rely on our droids to get that hard to come by SL exp at times. Think about all the possible combinations of people out there before you call to nerf the exp system, realize that this is indeed a group focused class and those without groups are going to level slower, but DON'T remove the only option to get exp solo for us. I have to say also that reading through the other profession boards our Correspondent is lacking in his information. Just from his sig alone you can tell he's not a SL first person, he's advertising his merchant skill more then the SL. Just a observation that bugs the hell out of me."

• Read my post about pets in group. This is completely not what I said at all.


• I'm sorry you think I am "lacking in information" and that I do not have a right to put my shop in my signature. I'm sorry it "bugs the hell" out of you and I highly suggest nominating yourself or another by e-mailing :[email protected] you do not feel I should continue further. No one should be represented by someone they think is incapable and, once again, I am sorry you feel that way.


• If you have personal concerns with me, we have personal messages. Please PM me and tell me why I am terribly uninformed.

Well I agree with you on the pet sl xp argument, but aside from that one boneheaded mistake our correspondent has offerred many many more necessary fixes to our profession and should be commended for them.

Its senseless to fight amongst ourselves, Captain is our correspondent for better or worse and rather than undermining him,we should work with him to correct his errors and help himmake more informed judgements.