Squad Leader Archive

OK.....I am not a person who usualy gets upset....I am arelatively calm person. I haven't bitched or complained about my choice to become one of the "weakest combat" professions in the game (aka Squad Leader) because that was my choice, knowing beforehand that this class was buggy...I still wanted to become a Squad Leader simply because I think its a cool idea....if implemented properly.

However after reading the latest in the DEV TRACKER forums this morning....I am VERY upset! It seems that we (meanin Squad Leaders) have been left out in the cold!!! Almost every other profession has gotten responses from the DESIGNERS to the major issues/bugs of their respective professions. At least these people know that the designers are aware of their problems, and steps are being made to correct/fix issues.

I DID NOT see anything that tells us what is being done to fix OUR profession!!!

Q....HOLO...I'm not sure you will ever see this post....but this is extremely aggitating! I have faithfully stuck with my profession, in the hopes that soon things will be fixed. And from my understanding (perhaps I am wrong) since we are not getting any feedback from the designers yet...that it will be AT LEAST another month before we get ANY feedback on the Squad Leader profession.

Does or Squad Leader correspondant have anything to say about this????????????????????

Unfortunately there isn't anything our correspondent can do.

This isn't the Squad Leader profession, this is the martyr profession. You're supposed to enjoy being penalized for using your special abilities, and relish the fact you are a sacrificial lamb being led to the slaughter all for your group of mindless morons.

While I understand your analogy of the martyr profession....I'm not sure I totally agree. Although I do agree w/ the fact that most ppl you group with in order to earn Squad Leader XP don't give a rats @$$ about the group. They just want to group in order to "kill bigger animals" and then they don't act as a group but a bunch of greedy individuals. As a SL i find myself...1st establishing order in a group...such as....NO SHOOTING LIL ANIMALS UNLESS THEY AGGRO...then settling "order" issues like who get to set up camps, harvest, etc....and then finding out what everyone's major ability is, so I can plan accordingly on what we will hunt. By the time all this gets settled and figured out....most ppl have gotten tired of all this "setup" and have /disband from the group to go off on their own.

I guess I just need to find like minded individuals whom actually WANT a Squad Leader to group with..........question is...untilI get my 1st tier level skill what do I have to offer other than thevaunted ability/SYSGROUP......(if u couldn't tell I was bein sarcastic :smileytongue

Those topics you were referring to were posted last night, also the developer stated the rest of the developer responses should be posted today. The reason for the delay is apparently someone "higher-up" wants to take a look at the responses before they get published online.

However, judging from the responses already made; I am not looking forward to any more.

I think people coming here shouting 'the devs are ignoring us' have to realize that, technically.... in any way at all... We Are Not Broken as a class or profession. We are not a high priority, nor a high profile class. (we should be a high profile one though....imo)

We have to be patient a bit and wait for the BHers, the Bio Engineers, the Smugglers (hehe, language learning, what the hell is all that about for them?!?! lol) and other ones that are seriously broken RIGHT NOW to be fixed. Then our shouts will be heard more.

All we can do is plod on in the meantime and rack up a list of what needs changing and bettering in our opinion

Don't forget they're also on PST. So it's just now 8am out there.

Only pure combat professions were updated last night. The artisans and hybrids will be updated today. I think that's pretty fair.

Oh, and don't shout you cry baby. Waaaaaaaaaaaa my forum isn't updated!! Mommmmmmy!!!!

Stumpfrowe of Kettemoor

We might not be the biggest profession in terms of user base, but we are by far the most strategic. Not sure if SOE realizes this.

To retain people in a MMORG, you have to get them excited about group functions and activities. That's the competitive advantage of these types of games. You don't have to have the best graphics. You don't need the coolest theme. You need content and challenges for small to large groups. Otherwise you are competing with terminal games and people will play this game for as long as they would play any X-Box game before they unsubscribe. Its a razorvs. razor blade issue. In MMORG its about selling razor blades.

Once you become part of a competent team online, these games become very VERY addicting. There is no other entertainment like it. Good teams start with leadership, and if we stay inline with SWG vision for this profession,then we arethe key to their long term viability.

My concern is that they just don't get it. That is why we have had such poor feedback. I mean, look at the special abilities inherent in our class...

1. SteadyAim is just worthless IMO


2. Volley Fire violates good raid practices by forcing its members to do certain things. As you grow in numbers you specialize more and its also harder to keep track of whats going on. You just have to give people roles, train them on what to do, and just try to monitor and debug the process while in combat and step into any gaps that might emerge. If anyone used this stupid command in my PA in an event (not that there is a lot to do right now), I would probably ask them to leave. You can't over ride the roles different members are playing and if we ever come across a challenging environment, it would likely get us all killed.


3. Formup is ok I guess, but its bugged and I think its more of a healer function. Let healers heal, and SL lead.


4. Boost Morale is fairly worthless in my opinion. We have healers to take care of us in the field. Let the healers do their job.


5. Rally is bugged I hope, and is not working as intended. If it is working as intended, then its worthless. If they get it so only people who want to kill stuff are in attack mode, then it would be fine.


6. Retreat is totally worthless. You dont run away in a large fight. You make a stand and try to fight it out or die trying. Running will only agro more mobs and ensure our deaths. We used to boot people from our Guild in EQ when people ran from fights. Obviously in a newbie world, running is practical.


7. Passive abilitiesare the only good thing we have, but we don't have enough of them. I would prefer if allof our abilities were passive, or 90% soour attentioncan be freeto lead ourteam. The mobility line is the only abilitieswe have that is in demand, and its not all that great. It just allows the doctors to keep up with the rest of us, but they still agro mobs, /sigh. GBRE is good to.

Our profession is more of a product marketing near missthen a technicalproblem. I am fairly confident when we get our feedback today, it will be a bug report...

Well, if they are communicating with us, it will be a start. Things won't get better over night.

I am almost to squad leader.

yes I know what you all will say, "get out while you can" but once they fix this it will be a nice profession to have.

Now here is the main question, do we get a response from anyone from SOE or does this post go unnoticed like so many and it leaving us with a bad taste in our mouths about SOE

Renfrowe IF iwas going to cry I would've done it ina totally different manner.I was simply trying to get some attention from the devs, or someone to get an answer to my questions. I find it simply appaling for you to make comments like you did...it really shows your maturity level. It makes me sick to be associated in the same group as you.

Jiwanrivers,

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">Does or Squad Leader correspondant have anything to say about this????????????????????"

What do you want me to do? I'm a voice for the people, not a senate. I've done everything in my grasp to work towards work. I am not going to e-mail bomb them in anger and such. I'm sure they will get to us shortly and, if we've been patient this long, what's another few hours or days?

Cpt Vemnox.....

Im sorry if you took that the wrong way...it was just more of me getting frustrations out....but I totally understand your position on this. ANd you're right..I've waited this long...guess I just got jealous since the other professions have something official....

Only 10 professions got any sort of a response, and most of them were along the lines of 'We'll look at it'. (Except the poor Commandos, who got quite a few 'Working as intended's.

You're appalled. I'm amused. I'm not the one crying out for attention.

Stump.