Squad Leader Archive

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kdwarp wrote:

They said this was suppose to show but it doesnt.

I do not see a boost to defense, accuracy, movment.

I have noticed better terain negotiation, but no defense or accuracy boost.

I thought the cu was suppose to make it more real

"...But more time is put into fake professions like swordsman,pikeman, and tkm. None of which appear in movie, and are still more uber then all professions."

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You thought WRONG. You're expectations are to high " What I Saw in the Movie " doesn't apply, go watch the movies if you wish to see the movies.

Im not sure where you're looking, and I wouldn't expect the "Mods" to show up in the character sheet, but if you want to test it, use ranged shot on someone ungrouped, and then group them and do it again, there will be a difference in damage.

/rofl, you used the work uber, in reference to squadleader. I'd like to know what you expect from this profession.

IMO

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Retreat = UBER

Volleyfire = UBER

Rally = UBER

Name me 1 other professions with "THREE" abilities that rival those of the UBER SL!

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Message Edited by OldManDog on 07-01-2005 08:40 PM

tkm, swordsman, and pikemen are fake professions.

They cnanot exist int the future starwars shows. Jedi is fake to, blocking laser fire faster then the speed of light.

And if SL was so uber, why do players lwho pvp so easily neglect it.

They call it useless. And they took away recover form dizzy doing pvp..

What u describe as uber applies to pve. not pvp.

U havnt been a Squad leader long, or just dont pvp.

This profession needs changes, and retreat is broke. Many things dont work. And rally last seconds. like 4 secs.

and it doesnt even work always. Get a clue.

DEVS FIX THIS PROFESSION OR JUST DELETE IT.

STOP SPENINDING SO MUCH TIME AT MAKING MELEE FIGHTERS BEAT EVERYBODY. BE REALISTIC.

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kdwarp wrote:

And if SL was so uber, why do players lwho pvp so easily neglect it.

They call it useless.

What u describe as uber applies to pve. not pvp.

U havnt been a Squad leader long, or just dont pvp.

This profession needs changes, and retreat is broke. Many things dont work. And rally last seconds. like 4 secs.

and it doesnt even work always. Get a clue.

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whoa there tiger...might want to take a second... retreat is not broke, works like a charm ever since cu, and rally works its stated time and as far as it working- my friend and i sometimes play with our comps side by side and have TESTED it. pull up ctrl c sometime - lookie at your offense and deffense stats....now...multiply that times the members in your group....ok...now think real hard....

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whoa there tiger...might want to take a second... retreat is not broke, works like a charm ever since cu

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Works like a charm... hmm, wouldn't say that, but i agree, it surely does the job.

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and rally works its stated time and as far as it working- my friend and i sometimes play with our comps side by side and have TESTED it.

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Not only you did so... rally is pretty useful, gives you a similar accuracy increase as steady aim (including the damage increase), lasts for some time instead of one shot and gives additional defensive modifiers. Sure, it's always just a few percent of more damage dealt and less damage taken, but applied to a team, it's definitely worth it.

I haven't completely calculated it through, but on a rought estimate, the accuracy bonus of rally pays off as soon as you havethree people in team. As this doesn't calculate in the defense modifiers (which i know no way to actually cross-calculate, too many variables come into play when you try that...) i would say that even with a two-man team rally (usually, sometimes something else just is more important...) is worth to be kept active as much as possible.

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pull up ctrl c sometime - lookie at your offense and deffense stats....now...multiply that times the members in your group....ok...now think real hard....

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Here i start to miss you. If you see the applied modifiers of any SL-special with ctrl-c, then i am very impressed... you'd be the first and only one yet to do so, everybody else just accepts the knowledge (or at least information) that the modifiers work or finds out himself by analysing his combat-logs. Ctrl-c currently doesn't reflect the SL-abilities in any way.

Message Edited by Sylow on 07-04-2005 01:19 PM

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Sylow wrote:

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pull up ctrl c sometime - lookie at your offense and deffense stats....now...multiply that times the members in your group....ok...now think real hard....

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Here i start to miss you. If you see the applied modifiers of any SL-special with ctrl-c, then i am very impressed... you'd be the first and only one yet to do so, everybody else just accepts the knowledge (or at least information) that the modifiers work or finds out himself by analysing his combat-logs. Ctrl-c currently doesn't reflect the SL-abilities in any way.

Message Edited by Sylow on 07-04-2005 01:19 PM

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Message Edited by captiansarcasmo on 07-05-2005 12:38 PM

I saw quite a bit of melee stuff in the movies like pikes and what not, especialy in rotj. Aside from that, with a good smart build, SL is quite handy in pvp. 1on1 its not going to stand up to full combat ofcourse but you can hold your own. From a group perspective though, who wouldnt want a squad leader around, especialy if they had some healing in their build? Volley fire, Rally, Retreat...they all work for me, and are even more effective when you have some sort of timer alarm or somthing. As long as your not a mindless spammer trying to padd your pvp stats then you'l do just fine as a squad leader. Our profession is about support and team work, maybe this guy is just more suited for jedi or bh or somthing.