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Thread: Base Slicing Guide Version 1.1

Blackferne
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:12 pm
#1





So you want to slice a base. It requires 5 roles to be filled, each with a specific requirement. BH(inv 2), Smuggler (Slicing 1), BE(Novice), Commando (Heavy Weapons Support 1) and Squad Leader (novice).



Each slice does something different and sometimes have a mini game associated with it. Below is a break down of every slice type that I know how to do, and hopefully some people can reply with the info I don't have.


Before you can enter the base you must take out any turrets that are attached to the outside of the base. Currently there is an "exploit" with the turret control terms inside the base that allows the defenders to shoot at a clip equating to how fast the person using the turret control can click his/her mouse. I was told this by Shifted so I give it some credit.


If there are no turrets you can ignore all AT-STs and Stormtroopers outside the base. Just ride your bike into the front door and start working on the NPCS on the inside of the base.

The following people must be overt for 5 minutes before the slicing occurs.


Bounty Hunter

Jam the Uplink Terminal (requires Bounty Hunter: Investigation II) This is a mini game where you try to guess a bandwith somewhere between 1-10. Select one and it will tell you higher or lower until you get it. Even if you started at 1 and went systematically to ten it shouldn't take that long to do.


Smuggler

Slice the Security Terminal (requires Smuggler, Slicing I: Terminals) This is a standard slice interface. The smuggler needs a laser knife and should also use a molecular clamp. If the slice fails a repair option should appear on the radial menu. Select repair and in 2 to 4 minutes the terminal should be repaired and the smuggler may try again.


Bio-Engineer

DNA sequence the Override Terminal (requires Novice Bio-Engineer) This is a mini game where you are matching up the sequence provided with the appropriate DNA pair. Basically you look at the first letter in the sample string and pick the option that has the matching pair. The key is A=t and C=G. So if the string was CGATATTTACGA you would select G since the string starts with a C. If there is no appropriate answer choose a multilettered answer since that cycle was "bugged" and you need to get to the next prompt. You need to get through around 10 of these to slice this term. (If anybody has had more experience with this and wants to add feel free)


Commando

Switch alignment of the Power Regulator (requires Commando, Heavy Support Weapons I) There is a list of 10 switches displayed in an on position. The commando may flip one to the switches to off position. This will affect one or more switches. Continue flipping switches until they are all in theon position.


Squad Leader

Activate overload at primary terminal (requires Novice Squad Leader) This is just a radial option off the Imperial HQ terminal. Its so easy.


Each slice has to be done in the order described above. It will not let you slice a terminal until the previous step has been cleared. Prevent the HQ from "shutdown" activate-able by any defending declared player. If the defenders are successful in the shutdown, there is a 5min "reboot sequence" before you can attempt step 5 again.


The easiest way to do this is have everybody gang up right infront of theHQ term the Squad Leader sliced and group gank anybody running in to try and reset the terminal.


Edit: fixed commando to read switches in the ON position.

Edit 3/6/05: During the recent changes to the GCW there now exist PvE and PvP (or Spec Forces). Core planets are controlled by the precentage of faction bases on that planet. PvP bases count more towars that. PvP bases have a 2 hour window of vulnerability once every other day., and can (and probably are) defended by players. PvE bases count less and can be sliced at anytime. PvP bases require being a Spec Force player at time of entry regardless of faction. PvE bases anyone can enter, but currently only Spec Forces players can slice.I don't think this is intended but I don't know for sure.

Message Edited by Blackferne on 03-06-2005 07:41 AM



Jounville Blackferne
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ob194
Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:52 pm
#2

*coughstickycough*


Ahem, excuse me.



-ob
Blackferne
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:58 am
#3






ob194 wrote:

*coughstickycough*


Ahem, excuse me.






Are you getting sick?


*pops vitamins*


*eats a STICKY bun*



Jounville Blackferne
"No one plays SWG to be Uncle Owen" -Dallas Dickenson


GedaTholit
Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:08 am
#4

Thanks for this guide, I cannot tell you the amount of times our group has wiped out legions of Stormtroopers, AT-ST's and other players, only to find we have forgotton a Bio Engineer, or the only Smuggler we have got jumped getting off the shuttle!



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Omoxo
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:03 am
#5






GedaTholit wrote:

Thanks for this guide, I cannot tell you the amount of times our group has wiped out legions of Stormtroopers, AT-ST's and other players, only to find we have forgotton a Bio Engineer, or the only Smuggler we have got jumped getting off the shuttle!






Ahh the joy of 5-prof base slicers...



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Deplomatic
Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:17 am
#6


Pretty good post, but got some tips and corrections to add from my experience of hacking.

BH: Start with 5; if you get the message to choose: lower choose 2 or 3, if higher choose 8. This will be the best way to quickly narrow down which option it is. However, sometimes it doesn't work logically (like if you choose 5 and it tells you lower, select 3 and tells you higher, thus you choose 4 since that's the logical answer, but it tells you to guess lower). In this case just follow what the message says and you'll eventually get it.

Smuggler: USE A CLAMP, no excuses!!! Take a second to confirm which wire it is, messing up here is costly with time.

BE: Now this is a rather complicated one which some vetern tricks.
Correction: you need 23 pair matches.
Correction: the sample string you get will be 3 characters long (this is important for a reason seen below)

Example:
Sample string: ACG

Options (23 single characters; these will not change each time the terminal screen pops up; once they've been matched they turn to a two character string and can't be used for matching anymore):
A
A
G
C
T (1)
A
C
G
C
T (2)
G
C
C
C
A
G
T (3)
T (4)
A
G
C
T (5)
A

Now, from the first character of the sample string "A", you would want to select "T" since that's what matches (A=T, C=G). There are 5 "T"s in the options. You can select any of these and get 1 match; HOWEVER, some options are better than others, that is, can get you 2-3 matches. This greatly speeds up this time consuming terminal.

Selecting the first T, will get you 2 matches. Look at the two characters below the one you selected:
T
A
C

You can get matches from other parts of the sample string: ACG
A matches the selected option T
Then it takes the second character of the string C and tries to match this up with the character under the selected option, A. C = G not A so this doesn't count as a match.
Then it takes the last character of the sample string G and tries to match it with the character two under the selected option, C. G = C so this is a match. Thus by selecting the first T, you get 2 matches out of the one selection.

The best option though is the second T since it gets you 3 matches.
T
G
C
Sample string ACG
T=A
G=C
C=G

This should give you an idea on how to get the most matches for each of your selections. Often in the first couple options you can get 2-3 pairs per selection, eventually you'll be doing 1 pair at a time after you use up a lot of options.

Addition tip:
You don't have to match up the first character of the string. Let's say you've already used up all the Ts (which are now 2 character options) and your sample string is still ACG.

Options:
TA
G
CT

If you select "TA", this won't match up with "A" but it'll move onto the character under that option "G" and match it with the second character of the sample string "C". This will match and get you 1 pair.

I know this is a bit complicated and it took me about the 20th terminal to figure out some of these detailed tricks, but they help a lot. Just work on a terminal a couple times and you'll start to see it.

Commando:
All switches are in an on/off position. It completes when you get all switches to an On positon. The post said in the Off position, this may be true but I haven't tried it. Each switch does affect 1+ other switches, I haven't found a consistent pattern (from one Power Regular terminal to another), so I just randomly select a switch in the Off position and eventually the terminal is hacked (this doesn't take too long to do i.e. under 30sec).

Message Edited by Deplomatic on 10-24-2004 06:19 PM



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Cpl_Fisher
Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:59 am
#7






Deplomatic wrote:


Pretty good post, but got some tips and corrections to add from my experience of hacking.

BH: Start with 5; if you get the message to choose: lower choose 2 or 3, if higher choose 8. This will be the best way to quickly narrow down which option it is. However, sometimes it doesn't work logically (like if you choose 5 and it tells you lower, select 3 and tells you higher, thus you choose 4 since that's the logical answer, but it tells you to guess lower). In this case just follow what the message says and you'll eventually get it.

Smuggler: USE A CLAMP, no excuses!!! Take a second to confirm which wire it is, messing up here is costly with time.

BE: Now this is a rather complicated one which some vetern tricks.
Correction: you need 23 pair matches.
Correction: the sample string you get will be 3 characters long (this is important for a reason seen below)

Example:
Sample string: ACG

Options (23 single characters; these will not change each time the terminal screen pops up; once they've been matched they turn to a two character string and can't be used for matching anymore):
A
A
G
C
T (1)
A
C
G
C
T (2)
G
C
C
C
A
G
T (3)
T (4)
A
G
C
T (5)
A

Now, from the first character of the sample string "A", you would want to select "T" since that's what matches (A=T, C=G). There are 5 "T"s in the options. You can select any of these and get 1 match; HOWEVER, some options are better than others, that is, can get you 2-3 matches. This greatly speeds up this time consuming terminal.

Selecting the first T, will get you 2 matches. Look at the two characters below the one you selected:
T
A
C

You can get matches from other parts of the sample string: ACG
A matches the selected option T
Then it takes the second character of the string C and tries to match this up with the character under the selected option, A. C = G not A so this doesn't count as a match.
Then it takes the last character of the sample string G and tries to match it with the character two under the selected option, C. G = C so this is a match. Thus by selecting the first T, you get 2 matches out of the one selection.

The best option though is the second T since it gets you 3 matches.
T
G
C
Sample string ACG
T=A
G=C
C=G

This should give you an idea on how to get the most matches for each of your selections. Often in the first couple options you can get 2-3 pairs per selection, eventually you'll be doing 1 pair at a time after you use up a lot of options.

Addition tip:
You don't have to match up the first character of the string. Let's say you've already used up all the Ts (which are now 2 character options) and your sample string is still ACG.

Options:
TA
G
CT

If you select "TA", this won't match up with "A" but it'll move onto the character under that option "G" and match it with the second character of the sample string "C". This will match and get you 1 pair.

I know this is a bit complicated and it took me about the 20th terminal to figure out some of these detailed tricks, but they help a lot. Just work on a terminal a couple times and you'll start to see it.

Commando:
All switches are in an on/off position. It completes when you get all switches to an On positon. The post said in the Off position, this may be true but I haven't tried it. Each switch does affect 1+ other switches, I haven't found a consistent pattern (from one Power Regular terminal to another), so I just randomly select a switch in the Off position and eventually the terminal is hacked (this doesn't take too long to do i.e. under 30sec).

Message Edited by Deplomatic on 10-24-2004 06:19 PM




correct you need all switches on, I have found that punching 1 or 2 then 6 seems to work the fastest. most of the time, in any case it has never taken me more than 30 secs.



For the BE, It's probably the hardest, and easily the most time consumming. Just be patient with them, Most people that have BE in there template, don't PvP that much If you just picked up a random BE because you needed one, chances are its there first time. The BE that slices our term for us took 10 minutes the first time, with me constantly alt-tabbing in the middle of battle trying to furriously read a guid, and type her instructions. 14 bases later, her average for the last 3 is a minutr, she sliced the last one in under 30 secs. Since I'm slice both the smuggler and Commando terms, It has taken me longer to find and travel between my terms that it takes her to slice it.


My point is, be nice to your BE slicer, gve them patience, and PROTECT them, they are the weakest link in the process, and any defender worth there salt knows it. who knows, you may awaken a tigress in that BE/Chef you found wandering around coro furiuosly examining everyone in sight that was purple.








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drathon-3
Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:56 pm
#8

nice info, thanks guys




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InfluenzaSWTA
Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:36 pm
#9

Never really realized how complicated all the steps are. All I ever do is punch the button .

I like how you use a binary search for the BH phase... that appeals to the programmer in me.



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_badcompany
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:39 am
#10

So what happens once you've "sliced" the base? i don't understand



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InfluenzaSWTA
Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:59 pm
#11

It goes boom.



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Blackferne
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:06 am
#12






InfluenzaSWTA wrote:
It goes boom.



And the slice team usually goes to IHOP as they have just pwnd teh nub.




Jounville Blackferne
"No one plays SWG to be Uncle Owen" -Dallas Dickenson


_badcompany
Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:14 pm
#13

Hehe, well great guide, my guild took out 2 imp bases that were camping krayt graveyard last night, booooom!


Not sure why i needed to be there though!? unless the other guy in the guild had novice squad leader, he musta done.. anyways, it was so funny



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